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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 13:54 BST (UK) »
 thank you for looking im afraid im none the wiser
is there anyway i could find out who the parents were of edward walter gale by only knowing that his father was called ernest and his mother elizabeth? and edwards birth is hereford?
its so little to go on
and where would i go to ask for a cert
names researching: Riley:Greenhalgh  Pike: Donaldson:of Lancashire
Davies/ Ford-Horne of Wales
clark(e) somerset
HEATH/GALE hereford and somerset

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 14:02 BST (UK) »

I am assuming you have the name Ernest Gale as father of the groom on the marriage certificate of your grandfather Edward Walter Gale. Does it give an occupation, and who are the witnesses on the certificate ?

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 14:28 BST (UK) »

Where do you have the information that your grandfather was born in Hereford from ?

Is it possibly Herefordshire rather than Hereford ?
or even Hertford

Herefordshire has 6 register offices, so he could have been regsitered at any of those.

Thinking of other things - when did he die, did he serve in the Second World War where some details should be on his Service record.

What age is on his marriage certificate ?

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 15:17 BST (UK) »
hello ebn thank you for your replies and efforts
the date of birth i obtained from  the wedding certificate for edward walter
marriage date was 26th dec 1936 he was aged 30 years old  occupation general labourer fathers name ernest gale deceased occ general labourer witnesses were e,m, davies and a g davies which i know to be sister and brother in law to the bride  as ive researched the other side
 the only other clues i have been given and i cant verify this is that the family around ernest's time were gypsey travellers selling dried flowers from hereford to somerset to devon and london sorry about this but the person i am getting this off has selective memories
as far as ive bben told the reason the name was changed from heath to gale is to avoid the men being signed up fro war !!
i do know that edward walter gale worked as a carpenter for the army at copenacre corsham during the 2nd world war
names researching: Riley:Greenhalgh  Pike: Donaldson:of Lancashire
Davies/ Ford-Horne of Wales
clark(e) somerset
HEATH/GALE hereford and somerset

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 15:37 BST (UK) »
HI

found this one on the 1901 Welsh Census.  They are living 12 Gray Street, Canton, Glamorgan


Walter Gale 40 bn Southampton Occ Hawker/Pedlar

Alice 48 bn Leeds

Ernest 14 bn Cheltenham


I might just add that they were had neighbours on either side that were Pedlars/Hawker and Gypsys.

Just looking to see if they can be sen in the 1891 census somewhere.

But if they were travellers maybe they weren't on






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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 17:52 BST (UK) »
whoooo winston i just wonder if that may be them?? wouldnt it be great
when you go onto the latter day saints site for the 1881 census , is there  something you can type in to get strays , gypseys and travellers etc or is it just pot luck if theyve managed to  get these familes on the census due to travelling?
names researching: Riley:Greenhalgh  Pike: Donaldson:of Lancashire
Davies/ Ford-Horne of Wales
clark(e) somerset
HEATH/GALE hereford and somerset

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 18:22 BST (UK) »
HI Ros


I'm not sure about that.  I know in some census I have seen travellers listed simple by Caravan number and nothing else.


Other times known only as a first  name or last name.


Not much help are they?


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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 August 06 18:35 BST (UK) »
half of the time they didnt want to be in the system did they, they were free spirits not like today
im really positve about that 1901 census u found especially with the head name being walter  may be edward walter was named after him?
any luck on the 1891 census/
how do u get acess to all the census? do u have to pay i know 1881 is free but what about the others
thank you again fro your tireless effort in helping me it is so much appreciated
names researching: Riley:Greenhalgh  Pike: Donaldson:of Lancashire
Davies/ Ford-Horne of Wales
clark(e) somerset
HEATH/GALE hereford and somerset

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Re: 1891 census look up for herefordshire please
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 August 06 12:17 BST (UK) »
hi winston , have you managed to turn anything up re 1891 census  nee walter gale etc found on the 1901 ,
this looks a distinct possibility
i have searched the 1881 census but canot find any of them on there at all? cant even find any birth records for ernest born cheltenham? wierd
anyway thank you for looking
regards ros
names researching: Riley:Greenhalgh  Pike: Donaldson:of Lancashire
Davies/ Ford-Horne of Wales
clark(e) somerset
HEATH/GALE hereford and somerset