joseph williams

[enticce]

...and he died in Chiltern. Up North somewhere (sigh) ....that's what i was told (why am i doing this lol)

Carla

[Gadget]

Carla

It might help if we knew the birth order but a location would be better.
The Dudley one would fit with the1901 one - age at death, etc. Black country was mining. I'll check out Dudley a bit more. Some of my ancestors were in that area at one stage and they were miners.

Where did William live as a teenager/adult?

Gadget

Chiltern -that's North Oxfordshire  - so something that sounds like Chiltern in the North then 

[Gadget]

There's Sherburn which is near Durham city itself:

http://www.pjoiner.demon.co.uk/genuki/DUR/SherburnHospital/index.html

[enticce]

ho hum i like to keep you occupied...wouldnt want you to get bored. Birth order for Joseph's children are William (born in spennymoor 1908) then Sally, elizabeth, leslie(boy). I believe that is right. It was mum in law that stated Chiltern up North, so goodness knows. Hmmmm can you see why i am muddled lol?? I believe Joseph was a miner (as was his son william).
Does any of this help you at all??? I am so greatful i cant thank you enough?? I think i need a glass of wine now
Carla

[Gadget]

SHILDON !!

http://tinyurl.com/g5yda

And I've got a headache 

I can't see a FreeBMD for that area of Durham  - it seems to be mainly marriages. Would be worth asking on the Durham board now

[enticce]

double impressed lol. So.......come on then what's your take on his dob then??? I am totally muddled up now...and lost. Where's the wine?

Carla

[Gadget]

I haven't found anything - just that Shildon seems the most likely place - it's in the right area and sounds like Chiltern

I think a summary of what we've found is perhaps in order:

Joseph Williams m Penninah Williams - 1907 Durham

They have children William (1908 - spennymoor), Sally (sarah?), Elizabeth and Leslie

Penninah is living with her parents in 1891 - John and Elizabeth Williams, b. circa 1884

Penninah's birth registered June q, 1883

Penninah's parents marriage - John Williams and Elizabeth Roberts 1873

Joseph died aged 56 of emphysemia - probably Shildon Co. Durham.
To find his DoB - as there are three possibles - we should get it from marriage or death - but these are not always accurate.

It might be worth tracing all three possibles through the censuses to see if any of them are likely candidates. Think I'd wait till next week though and get it from the Marriage cert.

Now you go get some wine and think of other things for a while. My head hurts!

Gadget

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Thank  you very much. Glad you have laid it out because i was lost. This will teach me to try and do two sides of the family's ancestors at the same time. wish i had stuck to my own lol. I think you are totally right and i will wait for the marriage certificate. Mind you...i am on a laptop and can drink my wine at the same time soooooooo i may census watch?
I will post here when i find out his dob just so your headache goes away. Just one thing...how did you find out all this so fast because it cant just be searching through the records. please tell me the secret?
Okay again i really appreciate this and hope you sleep well 

Carla

[Gadget]

I am on a laptop at the moment as well- but with a cup of coffee and my feet up  I had to scroll up and down the previous postings but got there - fast fingers 

Let us know the age on the certificates - I reckon he will be in his early 40s 


Gadget

(I had my wine earlier  )