joseph williams

[wrjones]

As far as Penninah Williams is concerned,being a totally unique name,the only one I can find is in the 1891 Census for Flintshire,born in "Ffynnongroyw" Flintshire,and living in  Llanasa Flintshire.She is listed as the daughter of John and Elizabeth Williams,and born in c 1884.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[Gadget]

That's obviously where the Ffynnongroyw came from then William - have you found her birth cert ref?

Here we are:

Holywell, 1883, June Q, V 11b, page 250

Gadget

[Gadget]

This is only marriage reference that I can find for Penninah's parents on the North Walses BMD, which fits with them having a 17 year old son on the 1891. Given their ages, he is probably the eldest child:

 John Williams, marrying an Elizabeth Roberts, Holywell, civil marriage, 1873 Local reference is

HOL - 08 - E155

Gadget

[enticce]

Thank you so much...i now know where to look and where to get certificates from. Not only that but i am now in the right area lol...Flintshire. Ok i am off to hunt for Pinninah's parents details and again i want to say this is so very much appreciated. Funny that Joseph and Penninah had the same surname isnt it!

take care Carla

[enticce]

Just quick...trying to work out which sub district i will find them in. Does anyone think the parish Treuddyn is the same as Tryddyn? I am looking on the North wales BMD site Gadget mentioned. and good old Flintshire is sub divided (yes ok i know i am an idiot!

Carla

[Gadget]

The registration district that I  found for you was Holywell.

If you go to www.genuki.org.uk

and select the Wales - Flintshire pages, they will be listed under 'civil registration'

Basically - ST Asaph, Mold and Holywell.

There are even nice maps there 

Gadget

[enticce]

Oh brilliant...am off to check that out now and hopefully this time i wont get confused. Maybe i should sign my name 'family tree newbie* 

Carla

[Gadget]

Don't worry Clara - William and I have been 'doing the boards' a good few years - we understand what it's like to be new to an area and we have the added advantage of being born there 

Gadget

[enticce]

Ok yipee i have just ordered two marriage certificates. One for Joseph and Penninah. The other is for John Williams and Elizabeth Roberts. So thank you. The only thing i am now hoping to find from thst is Joseph's age when he was married so i can get the right dob.

I know where to come now, especially as i have some ancestors in Radnorshire lol.

Watch this space 

carla