Date Uniform Please

[sammy14]

Would someone be able to date this uniform?
Any other information regarding the striping on the sleeve and regiment would also be appreciated.
I'm not exactly sure who this is in my family.  I think it may be Frederick William Payne born 1882 Ipswich, Suffolk, England.

Thank You,
Sam

[neil1821]

Hi,
It's certainly WW1 era. He's a lance-corporal, but the key for dating it is the set of 4 inverted striped worn just above the right cuff. I think I'm right in saying these are overseas service stripes and were introduced in Jan 1918, so the photo has to be post that date.
Neil

[davierj]

Looks loke WW1 to me.   The large chevrons on each arm denote the rank of Lance Corporal.   I don't know what the smaller chevrons on the right sleeve denote.

[sammy14]

Possibly a closer look would help?

See if this is any help.
Thanks,
Sam

[davierj]

To the untrained eye, ie me, the cap badge looks like one of the Commonwealth badges.
Cheers Dave

[neil1821]

Looking at the close-up, my first thought is Suffolk Regt

http://www.suffolkregiment.org/

Neil

[themonsstar]

HI
I'D go for the Suffolk Regt, he also has a medal ribbin on, this may be the 1914 Star/ 14-15 Star. You need to get his medal index card from the National Archive online site it will only cost you £3.50

[liverpool annie]

Hi Sam !

This looks like a possible medal card !

Payne, Frederick W
Suffolk Regiment
24322
Private
Date
1914-1920

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0pc/

I also found this

In Memory of
Private F W PAYNE

24322, 11th Bn., Suffolk Regiment
who died
on 09 April 1917

Remembered with honour
Roclincourt Valley Cemetery

Roclincourt is a village a little to the east of the road from Arras to Lens. Take the N17 from Arras until the junction of this road and the D60. Travel along the D60 into Roclincourt village. Roclincourt Valley Cemetery lies to the north-east of the village. It is on a farm track signposted off the Thelus road.

Roclincourt was just within the Allied lines before the Battle of Arras in 1917 and it was from here that the 51st (Highland) and 34th Divisions advanced on 9 April 1917. The 1st Canadian Division attacked further north, across the Lens road. Roclincourt Valley Cemetery (originally called Roclincourt Forward Cemetery No. 2) was begun after 9 April 1917 by the units which fought on that day. It was used until the following August when it contained the graves of 94 soldiers, of whom 40 belonged to the 51st Division. The cemetery was enlarged after the Armistice when graves, almost all of April 1917 and mostly from the 34th and 51st Divisions, were brought in from smaller cemeteries* and from the battlefields. The cemetery now contains 518 burials and commemorations of the First World War. 83 of the burials are unidentified but there are special memorials to four casualties known, or believed, to be buried among them. The cemetery was designed by Sir Reginald Blomfield. * The more important cemeteries concentrated into Roclincourt Valley Cemetery were the following:-. KING CRATER CEMETERY, ROCLINCOURT: a mine crater, it contained 99 burials in five big graves, made by the 34th Division in the middle of April 1917, all dating from 9 April. All but two belonged to the Tyneside Brigades of the Northumberland Fusiliers. KITE CRATER CEMETERY, ST LAURENT-BLANGY: containing 53 burials of 9 April 1917 in five big graves, mainly of the 34th Division. RABS ROAD CEMETERY, ST LAURENT-BLANGY: containing 20 burials of 9 or 13 April 1917, 16 belonging to the 15th or 16th Royal Scots. ROCLINCOURT LONG CEMETERY (called at one time Roclincourt Forward Cemetery No. 3): containing 68 burials of 9 April 1917, all 51st Division. THELUS ROAD CEMETERY, ROCLINCOURT: made by the XVII Corps and containing 42 burials of 9 April 1917, 51st Division.

Annie 

[manchester regt]

annie that cant be the man in the picture,as neil says,the 4 small stripes on his cuff means he was alive in 1918,and they all appear to be blue which means he was in france/flanders in 1915,not before,if he landed in france in 1914 then one of those stripes would be red,mack