Hazel,
St Andrew's Church Register (Church of England)
Film of the real thing.
BANNS
Banns of Marriage were Published in this Church
Between Joseph Black and Mary Ann Ladence
Both of this Parish
on the following Sundays.
3rd February
10th February
17th February 1822
MARRIAGE
The entry like much of St Andrew's records of this era is particularly difficult to read... a coming together of faint writing, poor quality of film, a filmreader impossible to focus and my eyesight.
But definitely 18th Feb 1822 (from other means I ascertain this to be a Monday ... and not just because we knew from the banns that 17th Feb 1822 was a Sunday.)
Priest abbreviated Joseph to "Jos". I read Mary Ann's name to be Lanzell or Lanzeli . But would not put money on it.
I read the male witness to be John Galloway.
I would not argue for or against the female witnesses name of Avery.
All four participants made good signatures, a bit unusual for that era. (And we have Mary Ann signing her name, and not just some official writing it down ! )
BAPTISMS.
Up to 1825 I could see no relevant Black bapts. Some Whites and Browns !
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St Andrews RC Church.
BAPTISMS
Some helpful person had produced various surname alpha indexes of baptisms containg surname and page number of baptism register. ( A pity the film of the baptisms themselves did not have them all in date order.)
Baptism
Born ? March 1823, baptised 7th (or 9th) April 1823.
John* Alex. (the priest's abbreviation,not mine) son of Jos (again abbrev not mine) Black and Mary Ann Black olim (Latin for "formerly" ) Ladz?ri
The last letter was definitely " i " as priest dotted the letter.
Third last letter was a small one. But could be read asatall letter, but the lower loop of the letter " f " from the word "filius" from the line above, cut right through M.A.'s maiden name.
Male sponsor or godfather was John* Ladya?i.
Godmother was Mary... surname could have been Avery again.. but the capital "A" was peculiar ?.
* The "John"s could have been "Joan", but RC Priests usually used "Johannes" as the Latin form of John.
Could not see Joseph junior's bapt.**
Baptism
Born 4th September 1829, Baptised 5th October 1829
James, son of Jos. Black and Mary Ann Black, formerly Ladzeri
Godparents Paul and Elizabeth Ladzeri
Baptism
Born 22nd April 1832, baptised 19th May 1832, Sarah, daughter of Joseph Black and Mary Ann Black, formerly Ladzari.
Godparents .Priest wrote "patrinus fuit" Paul Ladzari, "matrina fuit"
??*** Ladzari
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** As I say no sign of a bapt for Joseph or any other Black.
And I don't think he was bapt here as I caught all the Blacks, from the Index.
But I shall have another look on a better day
***Godmother's first name had no more than five letters. It looked like more like Alice than an abbreviation foe Elizabeth.
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So they initially married in Church of England, then baptised their first child and others in a Catholic church.
I wonder if they went through a RC marriage ceremony after their "legal" marriage in C of E ??
So over to you for your considerations
Michael Dixon
