Rev John Cadvan Davies

[The Gardener]

does anyone know anything about the family of Rev John Cadvan Davies, born Llangadfan  1846 died Oswestry 1923.

[XPhile2868]

The 1851 Census has a John Davies born Llangadfan in 1846 -

52 Llethymedw?, Llangadfan

Edward DAVIES bc1813 Llangadfan Sawyer
Margaret DAVIES bc1812 Llangadfan Sawyer's Wife
Emma MORGAN (listed as daughter - may be Margaret's from a previous marriage) bc1835 Llangadfan Scholar
Edward DAVIES bc1836 Llangadfan Scholar
John DAVIES bc1846 Llangadfan
David DAVIES bc1848 Llangadfan
Margaret DAVIES bc1850 Llangadfan

HO107/2499
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Stephen

[XPhile2868]

In 1861 -

Glanmartha?

Edward LLOYD DAVIES bc1813 Llangadfan
Margret LLOYD DAVIES bc1812 Llangadfan
John DAVIES bc1846 Llangadfan
David DAVIES bc1849 Llangadfan
Margred DAVIES bc1850 Llangadfan
Daret DAVIES bc1851 Llangadfan
Richard DAVIES bc1854 Llangadfan
Jane Elizabeth DAVIES bc1856 Llangadfan
Hugh DAVIES bc1859 Llangadfan

RG9/4260
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Stephen

[XPhile2868]

In 1881 (sorry, can't do any other census at the moment - I did the other two at the local library, where they have free Ancestry access) -

(information from familysearch.org)

Hendre Isa, Llanymowddwy, Merioneth, Wales

John DAVIES b1846 Llangadfan, Montgomery Farmer & Labourer
Elizabeth DAVIES b1848 Llangadfan, Montgomery Farmer's Wife
Ann DAVIES b1870 Llangadfan, Montgomery Scholar
Elizabeth DAVIES b1872 Llangadfan, Montgomery Scholar
Margaret DAVIES  b1875 Llangadfan, Montgomery Scholar

RG11/5544
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Stephen

[davierj]

Hi
There is another possible candidate, but no John Cadvan Davies.

RG9/4260/f11/p18 Address Allt, all surnames Davies

David, h, m, 52, farmer 39 acres emp 1, MGY Llangadfan
Jane, w, m, 51, MGY Garbeitho
David, s, u, wheelwright, MGY Garbeitho
John, s, u, 14, scholar, MGY Llangadfan

Could John have adopted the name Cadvan when he became a Rev?   Derived from Llangadfan - the church of Cadvan (Welsh Cadfan).   Cadvan was a King of Gwynedd 6th/7th Century.

Cheers Dave

[brynhyfryd]

Hello
I have found the Rev. & family in 1891 (Liverpool) & 1901 (Caernarfon), as follows:-

1891, living at 21 Gt. Mersey St., Kirkdale, Liverpool
John C. Davies (43) Wesleyan Minister,  b. Llangadfan, Mgy
Mary A. Davies (29) Wife, b. Leeswood, Flints
M.J.B. Davies (13) Dau.,  b. Cefnmawr, Denbs.
M.C. Davies (12) Dau.,  b.        do.
Ada H. Davies (6) Dau.,   b. Dolgelly, Mer.
M.O. Davies (5) Dau., b.          do

1901, living at Bathafarn House, Llanbeblig, Caerns.
John Cadvan Davies (54) Wesleyan Minister, b. Llangadfan
Mary A. Davies (34??) Wife, b. Coedllai, Flints.
Buddug Davies (23)  Dau.,  b. Cefnmawr
Morfudd Davies (22) Dau.,  b.     do
Ada H. Davies (16) Dau.,    b. Dolgelly
Olwen Davies (15) Dau.,    b.     do

North Wales BMD shows the following birth registrations in respect of the 2 younger children:
Ada Hefin Davies b. 1884   and    Margaret Olwen Davies b. 1885
both registered at Barmouth, sub district to Dolgellau

I have not been able to find the family in 1881, thus far.
However, in 1871,
Living at Prince of Wales Terrace, Penygroes, Llanllyfni, Caerns.
John Davies (24) Lodger, Wesleyan Minister, b. Llangadfan

There is something odd about the wife's (Mary A Davies) age, particularly in the 1901 census when she would obviously not be the mother of the 2 elder children. Possibly an error, as the 1891 census would be just about feasible.
On the other hand, perhaps she is a second wife.

Best wishses
Stan

[The Gardener]

nice one Stan - thanks

[brynhyfryd]

Just had another look at the 1901 image and Mary's age is in fact 39, which makes more sense. Sorry about that.

Stan.

[tegai]

Cadvan was a well known Wesleyan minister,hymn writer and Eisteddfod poet (as Cadfan) ; he was Archdruid in 1923. There is an entry in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography, online on the National Library of Wales site. His parents are given there as David and Jane. His autobiography is in Welsh. As a Wesleyan minister at that time he changed circuits every three years.

Tegai