Margaret Karlscind

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At the moment I am looking for relatives of my husband

Margaret ( hope I the spelling is right ) Karlscind

Margaret was my mother in laws cousin and they wrote to each other When I first entered the family

Sadly both are away now and my husband and his sister and brother wandered if anyone related to them still lived in America

Margaret was also the name of my mother in law

She was Margaret Mitchell and came from Brechin Scotland

Her parents were George and Margaret (nee Lyall ) Mitchell

We believe Margaret Karlscind lived in Chicargo

Looking for help
Elizabeth

[AMBLY]

Hi Elizabeth

If you pronounce the "cind" with a hard c, as in "car", I'd say it should be spelled KARLSKIND and would be Germanic in origin?

This may well be her in a two headed dwelling, with her husband, and living with her in-laws:

1920 - Chicago  - Ward 30, Cook Cty( Chicago), Illinois State
729 - 54 th Place
Head: Charles KARLSKIND 61, b Alsace-Lorraine (France), Speaks French, parents French. Immigrated 1887, naturalised in 1893, Meat Salesman, own Home (Freehold).
Wife: Briget KARLSKIND 61, b Ireland, parents Ireland. immigrated 1887, naturalised 1893,
Son: Micheal KARLSKIND 27, single, b Illinois, father: b Alsace-Lorraine (french), mother: b Ireland, Cattleman - Stckyards.
Dau: Madeleine KARLSKIND 25, single, b Illinois, father: b Alsace-Lorraine (french), mother: b Ireland, Stenographer - Packing Firm.
Dau: Maria KARLSKIND 23, single, b Illinois, father: b Alsace-Lorraine (french), mother: b Ireland, Stenographer - Lumber Firm.
And renting rooms in his parents home:
Head: Charles KARLSKIND 35 b Illinois, Meat Salesman,  father: b Alsace-Lorraine (french), mother: b Ireland, home is rented.
Wife: Margaret KARLSKIND 32, b Illinois, parents Scotland
Son: Raymond KARLSKIND 11, b Illinois.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

At this site, :
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/
some likely looking Social Security records, including:

Raymond T KARLESKIND b 1908, d 1996, Res: Orland Park, Cook, Illinois,

Margaret KARLESKIND b  5 Nov 1886, d May 1984

Charles KARLESKIND b 6 Jul 1890, d Apr 1966

And here:
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html
You will find death records of Charles KARLESKIND snr in 1933  & Briget KARLESKIND in 1926 plus possibly a dau or Dau-in-law.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Hi Elizabeth

Paydirt 
Go to this site, enter in KARLESKIND in the Death Notice section on left:
http://tinyurl.com/9yoed

Obituary 1966-04-03
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Charles Karleskind
Husband of Margaret Jane, nee Lyall
Father of Raymond T
Grandfather of ............
Brother of Michael, Madeline Hasbrook and Marie Flanagan.

Obituary 1984-05-13
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Margaret J. Karleskind
Wife of the late Charles C.
Mother of Raymond T. (Colette);
Grandmother of ..............
Great-grandmother of two

There are many names to follow up on, and perhaps locate living family members via the US Phone books etc, or even GOOGLE.

I'll search * post what I can find in the 1900, 1910 & 1930 

Cheers 
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

1930 - Chicago (Districts 251-500), Cook Cty, Illinois State
East 81st Street
Head: Charles C KARLESKIND Jnr, 39, b Illinois, Father: Alsace-Lorraine, mother Illinois (sic), first married at age 17, Broker - Real Estate. Rented Home.
Wife: Margaret KARLESKIND, 40, b Illinois, parents Scotland, first married age 18.
Son: Raymond KARLESKIND 21, single, b Illinois, Clerk - Building Constructor.

Ages  are a bit awry between 1920 & 1930!

1910 - Chicago -  Ward 29, Cook Cty   Illinois State
5117 Smith Margaret?  Street
Head: James LYALL 48, marr once, marr 26 yrs, b Scot, Scot parents. Imm 1886, ALien. Carpenter - House & Bldgs
Wife: Susan LYALL 50, marr once, marr 26 yrs, b Scot, Scot parents. Birthed 4 children, all still living. Imm 1886, Alien.
Son: James LYALL 25, single, b Scotland, imm 1886, Alien. Millright - Packing House.
Dau: Margaret KARLESKIND 22, marr, b Illinois. Packer - Medicining? Co.
Son: John LYALL 21, single, b Illinois. Carpenter - Packing House.
Dau: Jenny or Fanny?  LYALL 16, single, b Illinois. Bottle? Packer - Medicining? Co.
Brother-In-Law: John LINDSAY 45, wid, b Scotland, Scot parents, imm 1888, Naturalised. Carpenter - Packing House.
Grandson: Raymond KARLESKIND 2, b Illinois

Missing 1910  is the SOn-In-Law: Charles KARLESKIND - I can't find him 

1900 - Town of Lake, Chicago -  Ward 30, Cook Cty , Illinois
5117 Morgan Street
Head: James LYALL 37 - b Aug 1862 Scotland, marr 17 years, Carpenter, Owns own House, Freehold.  He, wife and son James imm. 1886, naturalised.
Wife: Susan LYALL 38 b Nov 1861 Scotland, birthed 7 children, 4 still living.
Son: James LYALL 15 - b Nov 1884 Scotland, Laborer.
Dau: Maggie LYALL 12 - b Nov 1887 Illinois, At School
Son: John LYALL 10 - b Oct 1889 Illinois, At School
Dau:  Fannie LYALL 6 - b May 1894 Illinois.

Margaret's Husband Charles enlisted WW1:
5 June 1917, 13 - 7 Ward, Chicago IL, Draft Board 16
Charles Clement KARLESKIND age 26, DOB: 6 Jul 1890, Chicago IL.
Residence: 923 East 61st St, Chicago, IL
Occ: Salesman: John Agar Packing? Co.
Married, Nearest Relative: Wife & Child 9 yrs old.
Medium Height, Stout Build, Brown Eyes, Dark Hair
He signed: Charles C KARLESKIND Jnr


Margaret & Charles' son Raymond enlisted WW2:
Raymond T Karleskind b 1908   Illinois
Enlisted  10 Apr 1941, Chicago Illinois
Enlisted to: Warrant Officers, USA 
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA   Grade Code: Private 
Education: 2 years of high school 
(Civil) Occupation: Addressing-Embossing Machine Operator or Clerk, General 
Marital Status: Single, without dependents 
Height: 65 
Weight: 162 

The next available Census prior to 1900 was 1880,  as the 1890 was by & large destroyed by Fire.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

This may be of Interest:

Karleskind of Lorraine
http://genforum.genealogy.com/karleskind/messages/9.html
http://genforum.genealogy.com/karleskind/messages/16.html

Cheers
AMBLY 

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Ambly

Thank you for this

This is the family

James Lyall was my mother in laws uncle

I haven't had time to tell the rest of the family yet they will be pleased

Elizabeth

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Hi Ambly

I have just been looking through what you sent to me

the first family from France is not ours but the ones from Scotland are
Many thanks once more
Elizabeth

Got a cross stitch on my wall above me Amberly Australia

[AMBLY]

Hi Aspin

Sorry you lost me there  - I think all the Census I sent you are connected  - either bloodline or in-law -  to your Margaret KARLESKIND. She was born in Illinois, it says so on the 1900 and 1910 Census  where she appears with her Scots born  LYALL parents (in 1910 as a married woman).

She married an Illinois born man Charles  C.  KARLESKIND Jnr whose father Charles Snr was born Alsace-Lorraine France  and whose mother was Bridget.

The Obituary for your Margaret's husband Charles in 1966 confirms 1) Margaret's maiden name LYALL,  and 2) the names of his 3 siblings, Michael Madeline & Marie who also appear on  the 1920 Census - with your Margaret & Charles who are renting rooms in the same house as his parents Charles & Bridget, & siblings Michael, Madeleine and Maria.

I am in NZ - just across the ditch:-) Never heard of Amberley - Is't that funny, you have the cross sticth while I'm writing to you!  Though I came across an AMBLEY the other day in the UK I think!

Cheers 
AMBLY