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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 29 October 06 10:29 GMT (UK) »
1881 census RG11 4593 folio 90
38 West Street Castleford  Yorkshire   
Richard Wigglesworth 35 Aberford Yorkshire,  Head Married  Glass bottle maker
Sarah Wigglesworth 32 Warrington Lancashire,  Wife  Married
Eliza Wigglesworth 9 Castleford Yorkshire, Daughter 
Joseph Wigglesworth 7 Castleford Yorkshire,  Son   
Alice Wigglesworth  4 Castleford Yorkshire, Daughter 
Richard Wigglesworth 2 Castleford Yorkshire,  Son 

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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 29 October 06 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Valda for that - am a bit short of time today, but have searched the 1901 census a bit, with no luck so far - perhaps he fled the country !!  Will carry on looking though.  Thank you.

Silas
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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 29 October 06 11:13 GMT (UK) »
1891 census RG12 3763 folio 155
48 West Street Castleford  Yorkshire  
Richd Wigglesworth 45 Yorkshire,  Head  Married Glass bottle maker
Sarah Wigglesworth 43 Warrington, Lancashire Wife Married
Joseph Wigglesworth 17 Castleford Yorkshire,  Son    
Richard Wigglesworth 13 Castleford Yorkshire,  Son  
John Wigglesworth 8 Castleford Yorkshire, Son
Polly Wigglesworth 6 Castleford Yorkshire,  Daughter  
Maggie Wigglesworth 2 Castleford Yorkshire,  Daughter  
Sarah Syres 16 Knottingley Yorkshire Niece   ?
next door to Matthew Wigglesworth and his family. Matthew was also a glass bottle maker aged 44 born Newthorpe Yorkshire

If this is Joseph's birth registration

Births Dec 1873
Wigglesworth  Joseph Morris     Pontefract  9c 128

then this man emigrated to America.

Marriages Mar 1867
Morris  Sarah Harriet     Castleford  9c 123  
Wigglesworth  Richard     Castleford  9c 123

U.S. First World War draft registration

Joseph Morris Wigglesworth
Address Clinton Avenue Burginfield Bergen New Jersey
aged 44 date of birth 23rd November 1873 born England
occupation bricklayer for Gypsum Company
wife Julia Minow? Wigglesworth
Height tall
medium build
hazel eyes
black hair

1920 U.S. census
Bergenfield, Bergen, New Jersey
Joseph Wigglesworth 46 England White Head Married  Year of immigration 1904 year of naturalization 1919 Bricklayer
Julia Wigglesworth 33 New York White Wife  
Mary Wigglesworth 13 New York White Daughter  
Alice Wigglesworth 3 New Jersey

1930 U.S. Census
Bergenfield, Bergen, NJ
Joseph M Wigglesworth 56 England  Head  Widower Year of immigration 1906 naturalized Mason in building trade
Alice Wigglesworth 13  Daughter New Jersey  
Edna Wigglesworth  9    Daughter New Jersey  
Ruth Wigglesworth 1 5mths Daughter  New Jersey  

The 1910 census is harder to search because it is only indexed to head of household.

Lots of U.S. cousins then?

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Valda
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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 29 October 06 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Valda - how do you do it?  I'm getting in a right old muddle here.  I've looked and looked.  So when actually did he go to America, and did he remarry to Julia?  Where did you find all this info please?

Silas
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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 29 October 06 15:24 GMT (UK) »
From the U.S. census returns he emigrated sometime around 1904-6. I can't see him on the Ellis Island website so he didn't come through New York. He might have come via Canada (he isn't on the 1901 Canadian census). He might not have emigrated by then. Since there was a war on at the time of the fighting he might have been in South Africa.
I have no idea whether he married again or simply lived with Julia as man and wife. He could have got divorced or he might have married bigamously. Censuses don't really give me that sort of detail!
If you don't have subscription access to U.S. records you can't access the sort of records I can access.

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Valda
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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 29 October 06 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all that Valda - you've got me going on his side of the family now.  Really interesting.  I did wonder if he had fled the country - can't blame him after what he did !!  Cheers.

Silas.
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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 29 October 06 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello Silas, Valda, Katherinem, and anyone else following this topic:

I've followed the topic and wanted to see if I could find anything over here in the U.S. on Joesph Wigglesworth. I searched the Ellis Island passenger lists while having my breakfast and came up with something that may only add to the confusion.

I found a "Joe Wigglesworth" arriving New York, 1905

Name:     Joe Wigglesworth
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence:    Partick
Date of Arrival:    May 01, 1905
Age at Arrival:  31   
Gender:  M   
Marital Status:  M 
Ship:    Caledonia
Port of Departure: Glasgow

This Joe Wigglesworth's occupation is bricklayer, so he seems to match up with the Joseph Wigglesworth who was the bricklayer in New Jersey in the draft registration and the 1920 and 1930 censuses. On the manifest Joe Wigglesworth's final destination is given as Baltimore, Maryland, but the address to which he is traveling is John Cameron, 666 10th Avenue, New York (666 may be an appropriate house number if this is the nefarious brother-in-law!)  >:( >:( >:(

Since Joe was listed on the manifest as being married, I did a search for a female Wigglesworth coming to join him in the next year or so--1906-08. And I think I found one. Or should I say two? Lizzie Wigglesworth, age 31, and daughter Lizzie, 8, traveled from Glasgow, arriving New York on June 24, 1906. The name and address of the relative they are going to meet is Joseph M. Wigglesworth, 1489 Avenue A, New York.

This could be a red herring, but the middle initial makes it interesting. I realize that in the draft registration (1917) and in the 1920 census, Joseph's wife is Julia. But that is 11 years after Joseph Wigglesworth's wife Lizzie comes to the U.S.

Something to think about... ??? ??? ???

Regards,
John  :o :o :o
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 29 October 06 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello all: The point I was trying to make about Joseph Wigglesworth's perhaps having two wives in the U.S. is that once a lout always a lout?

John
ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Illegitimate birth
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 29 October 06 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Since Lizzie the child aged 8 in 1906 was Scottish by birth, I'd asked for a lookup on the Scottish 1901 census for the couple and their daughter and see what information it gives.

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Valda
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