Kelly & Doyle Family Need Help

[slewis]

Hi
I am looking for my Grandmothers family all i know is her name is Lilly Kelly, born 8 Jan 1890 in Manchester, her father's name was Benjamin, when she was very young she went to live in Sheffield, Yorkshire, with an aunt & uncle who was a coal dealer.
Now i have gone down the Benjamin root with the help of you kind people but we did'nt get very far.

In 1891 i have found a Nelly kelly an adopted daughter born 1890 in Manchester living with James and Bertha Kelly and family and a sister in law to James is a Margaret Doyle. This is in Chorlton upon Medlock.

In 1901 i have a Lilly Kelley a visitor to the family of James and Ellen Doyle also Mary Kelly and family the head of the house is a maria Wood i think she is Ellen and Mary's mother.
James is a coal dealer in Shefield, Yorkshire

If any one can help me find just were Lilly fits, was Benjamin a Kelly or a Doyle ? Mary Kelly had a son in Sheffield name of Frances, and my Mum said that she had an uncle Frank so alot fits but i gess it can if you wont it to.
Sorry that i have gon on but i realy would appreciate any help.
                      Cheers Sue 

[sarah]

Hi Slewis,

As you know here birthdate does this mean that you have a birth certificate for her ?

If so we could investigate further her father trade, home address or her mothers details..maybe ?

Sarah

[slewis]

Hi Sarah
Thanks for the reply, i dont have a birth certificate, i have a death certificate, and one of her wedding certificates, her father, is down as Benjamin Kelly, foundry labourer, deceased.
My gran got rid of all her paper's befor she died, and would never speak of the past.
I only hope that when the 1911 census is out that will help me, but thats a long time off.
  I realy would appreciate any help
                  Sue

[Manchester Rambler]

There is no birth registered for Lily KELLY or Lily DOYLE Mar Q 1890.  There are 2 Lilian Kellys, but nowhere near Manchester. 

Rambler

[Iria]

Hi Sue

Could this be a Possible?

1891 Census

14 Back Clayton Street  New Cross Manchester Lancashire

Benjamin Kelly Head Mar 50 Gen Lab   Born Manchester
Mary Kelly Wife 36                                Bron Liverpool
Emily Kelly Dau 7                                   Born Liverpool
Alfred Kelly Son 6                                   Born Manchester
Denis Kelly Son 4                                    Born Manchester
Lillian Kelly Dau 2                                     Born Manchester


This Makes Lillian born 1889 But Ecumaters mistakes might of made her age wrong

Hope this helps in some way

Regards

Iria

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Just in case she was born in 1889 there is this birth,

Lilian KELLY  Mar Q  1889   Manchester  v.8d  p.213

I think you can request you only want the certificate if the father's name is Benjamin.

Regards
Daisy

[slewis]

Hi all
Thanks ever so much for your help i also found Benjamin and Mary in Manchester on the 1891 census but not in the 1901 census, i realy think the answer is with the Doyle's and Kelly all the bits of info i have on gran are their the coal dealer, Yorkshire, and the adopted daughter.
                I really appreciate your help
                              Cheers Sue