STuck for 10 years any clues?

[majm]

Hi,

Can you please check the 1862 marriage and post the given age on that document for Charlotte, and any other information that she provided to the clergy at that time ... what info did she provide about her parents to that clergyman?   

JM

[majm]

Thanks
I have not seen the Charlotte Johnson 1849 one before, I think I'll get a transcription for  that one and hope it contains some information.
Debbie

Charlotte Ann, parents as James Johnson and Maria Douglass, born 14 June 1849, baptised 15 August, 1849, Richmond NSW
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTC2-TR2

Likely this would be a C of E baptism, as the NSW BDM has it as Volume 34A, line 1778 (of 1849) and Volumes 1 to 40 are definitely C of E.

JM

[dhowse]

Death certificate gives her age as 56 and she died 1904. Eldest son is 40.

Marriage
The consent of Mrs Elizabeth Ann Devine her guardian was given to the marriage of Charlotte Johnstone with John Rabbit the said Charlotte Johnstone being under the age of 21.
Her address is Three Mile Creek, Ipswich
This is where the Devines are although they also have property out west.
Mary Johnstone and William Rabbit are the witnesses, William is John’s father and makes his mark. mary signs. charlotte makes her mark.
Presbyterian marriage.
I have one dna match to a descendant of Elizabeth’s husband Philip Devine.

[majm]

Thanks,  I notice that the bride's actual age is not recorded on the document.  Is it a certificate issued by Queensland BDM?   and have you sought out the original parish register, perhaps the clergy in Qld were following the clergy in NSW and basically recording 'all' the information on the parish registers BUT NOT forwarding all the info to the civil Registrar General's office ... 

In NSW from commencement of civil registration (in 1856) for several decades thereafter the bride's parents including nee name for mum and dad's occupation and the bride's age and place of birth,  (and similar info for bridegroom) were recorded on the parish register BUT the Churches were concerned about the depth of detail being shared on civil registers (where people were not of the same denomination) so the clergy withheld some of the info they obtained from the bride and groom...  (from the summary info they sent through to the Reg General). 

As Qld was hived off from NSW in 1859, it is likely that the NSW BDM laws of 1856 would have transferred over too, but I am not sure. 

JM

[dhowse]

It is a Qld marriage cert, Colony of Qld at the top. No parental information given for either parents even though we know John’s father was present.
I have not seen the original register.

[wivenhoe]

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser 8 Apr 1862
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/125596585?

On the 5th inst at Warrel-Creek by the Rev G M REED, Mr John RABBIT of M'Intyre-Brook, to Chatlotte the daughter of Mr Thomas JOHNSTONE of Franklyn Vale 

[dhowse]

A huge thankyou!

[majm]

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser 8 Apr 1862
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/125596585?

On the 5th inst at Warrel-Creek by the Rev G M REED, Mr John RABBIT of M'Intyre-Brook, to Chatlotte the daughter of Mr Thomas JOHNSTONE of Franklyn Vale 

Well found 

JM

[wivenhoe]

From  post #1
"... Charlotte uses the middle name Mary."

Where do you see Charlotte with second given name Mary?

"  the birth of a child gives the place of birth as Brisbane the death certificate gives Sydney"

Can you list all the information on the birth certificate.

Can you list all the information on the death certificate.

The death certificate for Charlotte RABBITT, 1904,  has two sons and one daughter deceased.

Have you identified these three children?