James Bourne 1839 - Cheshire

[queenswood 1]

I am trying to trace James Bourne shown on 1881 Census as being born in Weston, Cheshire in 1839. I cannot trace his birth registration - can anyone help??
In 1881 he was a labourer living in wolstanton and when his son Herbert married, he was a farmer.
I think he died in 1901 just before the 1901 Census was done as his wife is shown as a widow, and I think I have found his death registered.
Any one who can help on tracing his family in Weston, Cheshire - many thanks!!

[peterbennett]

Hi Caroline

                Welcome to Rootschat

Sorry there are no Weston Parish records online that I know about,but did manage to find the family on the 1851 census with James aged 14,it looks as if he was just to early for the cival registration in 1837. If you have any problems reading the scan please let me know.

regards

peterbennett

1851 HO107-2169-F 293  Weston-on-Wybunbury Nantwich

[peterbennett]

Hi


From: carolineawood on: Yesterday at 19:57:27
 
Hi Peter- thank you so much for your prompt reply! This one does look very hopeful-the nearest yet!. I have printed of your scan for 1851- can you tell me if it is possible to trace who James married? I know he married Ann who was born in 1841 in Tunstall and that their first child, Thomas, was born in 1866 in Crewe. I can't believe how quickly you were able to reply!! Would really appreciate your assistance as this has really become a stumbling block in completing this particular line. I also read that Weston was a sub division of Englesea Brook for Registration - have we got the right Weston?? Huge thanks and look forward to hearing from you.

Hi
    Yes we have the right Weston (W by Crewe Nantwich ) I checked the other Weston and there are no correct Bourne family there. There is no likeley marriage in the Cheshire BMD so I have checked the Staffordshire BMD and there is a marriage between a James Bourne and Ann Bell at Christ Church Tunstall 1864, a copy of the wedding certificate can be obtained on this link, http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/ if its the correct marriage it should show James father as Thomas.

good luck

peterbennett

[queenswood 1]

Hi Peter-thank you so much for your prompt reply-yes, I had traced Ann Bell but was not convinced that she married the right James Bourne-however, with your assistance it is looking very promising!
Is there any chance you can help me further as I have been attempting to trace the brothers and sisters of Hugh and James Bourne. They were born April 1772(Hugh) at Bagnall, Staffs and March 1781(James) at Stoke to Joseph and Ellen Bourne. I do know that Hugh was the third son and fifth child of Joseph and Ellen Bourne (they lived at Fordhayes Farm and then Bemersley). Our family have always understood that the James Bourne we have now traced at Weston in 1839 was related to this family. I have drawn a total blank - are you able to help?? I know it is a long shot but your help so far has been amazing!! Huge thanks
- email soon!

[peterbennett]

Hi Caroline

                 I will try to help as far as I can with your Bourne family. There are several families in the area of Weston that I think may have a Staffs connection, I will try to sort them out in the next few days, can you give me the names of the brothers and sisters you are looking for.

regards

peterbennett  

[queenswood 1]

Hi Peter - I am progressing with the Bourne family. I finally ascertained that James Bourne married Ann Bell in 1864 -a relative has now turned up a family bible! I ordered the marriage cert which shows James's father as Thomas Bourne - Farmer!
This would therefore imply that James is son of Thomas and Mary Bourne as indicated on the prints that you sent me for Bournes at weston in 1841 and 1851 - is there any other way that I can be more definite that this is the right parentage for James (born 1837/1839 depending on the ages on the Census!). You will see that Thomas and Mary Bourne (I think married in 1826 at wybunbury according to IGI) had 8 children, of which James was the 6th child. I think I just need confirmation now that there are no other Bourne families in Weston with the head as Thomas and a son James born 1837-1839, and then I am home and dry on this link. Can you please just check your records for me in this respect.
I am also curious now with regard to the list ofWills available as this shows one relating to Thomas the Elder Bourne, Weston, Wybunbury Farmer 1864. Now James married in 1864 - how do I access this will to investigate further. i think I have disscovered that Thomas Bourne married Mary Mallam in Wybunbury in 1826 but I would be fascinated in delving deeper if I can be sure this is the right family!
Huge thank yous for all your help - looking forward to hearing from you soon
Caroline

[peterbennett]

Hello Caroline
                    All the Bourne families in the area 1841/1851 are represented on the census copies I did for you, if you want to confirm parentage of James then you will have to go through the Chester RO, at the email address on this link, if you detail out all you know of his birth they will check the church records and reply usually they will search a few years for free. As he is not listed in the cival registration index I would suggest he may have been born early 1837 or even a short while before that.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/aboutus/recoffcontact.htm

The wills data base can be found on this link and the will can be purchased online only about £3.50.

http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/Wills/

regards

peterbennett

[queenswood 1]

Thank you Peter - I have scoured the images you sent and there is only one family with Thomas Bourne as head and son James, around the right age, give or take a couple of years- so hopefully this is the one! However, I ahve taken your advice and will be writing to Cheshire records office re church records etc and may also apply for the Will of Thomas Bourne the Elder once I am a bit more sure of the link.
Many thanks for your prompt reply and all your help!
Caroline