Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 1

[sage]

Hi Lodger,

Just enquiring if perhaps my query on the previous page re the Murray family escaped your attention.  I find it quite hard to believe as you're normally so switched on  but I think there were other postings in the mix and mine got overlooked.

Cheers,

Heather.

[Lodger]

Heather,

Yes, I had missed that one, sorry!

I have a neighbour who is the great-great-grandaughter of Samuel Murray and Ann Lilly.
Another neighbour is descended from a sibling of Janet Armit.

Anyway, first of all, here is the burial record for Ann.

ANN MURRAY. Housewife, Newmains, aged 54 years, married.
Parents - James Lilly and Rose Spence.
Interred in common ground 13th December 1873.

Also, an "odd one out" - not in with the rest of his family, unless his parents are in there after 1916.
JAMES MURRAY. Brusher, Newmains, aged 24 years, single.
Parents - James Murray and Janet Armit.
Interred in Section E 760.  8th August 1900.

there are 2 plots in the cemetery that are full of Murrays.
First is Section C 138. 7 burials here.

SAMUEL MURRAY.  Coalminer, Newmains, aged 59 years, widower.
Parents - James Murray and Ann Skillen.
Interred 30th December 1881.

SAMUEL MURRAY. Newmains, aged 2 years.
Parents - James Murray and Janet Armit.
Interred 30th December 1882.

THOMAS MURRAY. Newmains, aged 8 months.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 19th February 1889.

WILLIAM MURRAY. Miner, aged 46 years, single.
Parents - Samuel Murray and Ann Liley.
Interred 23rd November 1893.

THOMAS A MURRAY. Newmains, aged 11 months.
Parents - James Murray and Janet Armit.
Interred 16th July 1894.

ALEXANDER A MURRAY. Newmains, aged 11 months.
Parents - James Murray and Janet Armit.
Interred 18th June 1896.

MARIA MURRAY. Newmains, aged 12 years.
Parents - James Murray and Janet Armit.
Interred 22nd August 1899.

2nd plot is Secion C 180.

HENRY MURRAY. Newmains, aged 2 years 6 months.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 3rd April 1889.

WILLIAM MURRAY. Newmains, aged 7 months.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 1st March 1893.

SAMUEL MURRAY. Store Row, Newmains, aged 10 years.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 31st March 1894.

GEORGE S MURRAY. Newmains, aged 20 weeks.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 5th August 1907.

MARIA MURRAY. Newmains, aged 11 months.
Parents - Thomas Murray and Jane Saunders.
Interred 7th October 1910.

THOMAS MURRAY. Steel sawyer. 228 Cambusnethan. Aged 54 years, married.
Parents - Samuel Murray and Annie  - - - - - .
Interred 6th March 1916.

[sage]

Hi Lodger...well that was certainly worth waiting for...thanks so much.

You referred to James Murray buried in Sect E 760 in 1900 at age 24...here's an editorial published in the local newspaper dated Sat Sept 8th 1900:

"Fatal accident - An accident of an alarming nature took place in the Herdshill Colliery (belonging to the Coltness Iron Co Ltd, Newmains), on Wednesday evening about 7:15 o'clock.
It appears that while James Murray, sen., and his son James Murray, both residing in Brown Street, Newmains, were busily engaged in brushing, a heavy fall of stone came away from the roof without warning and fell on the young man while he was in the act of stooping over the edge of a wooden bogie.  From thje nature of the accident there was no hope of saving the man, and death must have been instantaneous. 
The stone, which is estimated to have weighed 15cwts., took the united exertions of three men to break it, before the deceased could be extracted.
Murray whose age is 24, was a native of Newmains, where he was well known."
I thought that as the subject of miners was topical in this thread lately that I would add this excerpt as a matter of interest. 

James' grandfather, Samuel Murray who died 28 Dec 1881 also died in the pits, "From effects of injuries received on 27th Dec 1881 by a quantity of stone and debris falling on him while at work in No. 6 Pit, Greenhead in Cambusnethan."

The Murray family certainly made more than  their fair share of sacrifices for the mining cause. 
Lodger I was delighted to learn that there are still descendants of the Murrays in the area.  I recently had the good fortune to make contact with a descendant from Canada and as a result I now have a photo of Janet Murray (nee Armit) which I treasure.  She's a bit of a heroine in my eyes...I often think that if I had to walk a mile in her shoes that I would never have cause to complain again in my lifetime.  She must have been made of strong stuff!

If any of your neighbours were interested to make contact with me I would be stoked.
By the way, James & Janet Murray (nee Armit) are interred  in Sect E759.  If anyone ever had a chance to take a photo of this headstone (assuming there is one, that would be brilliant).
All for now,
Heather.

[sage]

Hi Lodger,

I've come across a couple of Armit/Sleith connections and wondered if you would have any burial records for family of James Sleith & Agnes Smith. 

Their son John died 25 Feb 1919...would there be any burial records for children born to he and his first wife Agnes Pollock.  She died 16 May 1894 in Newmains and was the daug of Alexander Pollock & Isabella Anderson.

With thanks,
Heather.

[LizzieAS]

Hi,

I think my GGGGGranparents and some of their children may be buried in Cambusnethan Cemetery and wondered if you could track them. They are:

Alexander Brown b @ 1771 (maybe a few years earlier), a Mason, of Bonkle
his wife Catherine Brown nee Inglis about the same age
their daughter Helen Brown b @1798
their daughter Catherine who married a William Waddel
and possibly other children.

I'd be grateful for any help you can give. I am hoping to be in the area in the near future but I understand the Cemetery is huge and just wandering about looking would be a bit of a waste of time!

Thanks
Lizzie

[Lodger]

Hi Lizzie,

Couldn't find any of these people, sorry. Anyone who died before 1861 would have been buried in the churchyard, I checked the monumental inscriptions and there is nothing there for the Brown/Inglis or Waddell/Brown families.

Also checked the private burial ground that opened in 1861 and the new cemetery but couldn't find any mention of them, no still-births, children or adults.
I see the Waddells and Helen Brown in the 1851 census index for Cambusnethan, I imagine that they will have survived until at least 1855, so they should be easy to find in the statutory deaths.

Good luck,

Lodger

[LizzieAS]

Thanks for trying Lodger.

I realised after I'd posted the message that I should have said that Andrew & Catherine probably died between 1841 and 1851 as they were in the 1841 census but not 1851 and at the same address as Helen and the Waddels lived in 1851. Is it possible that they could have been buried elsewhere? They came from Murdostoun originally?

Lizzie

[Lodger]

Andrew? or Alexander?

The only other place they could have been buried is Kirk o' Shotts churchyard. Up until the end of the 16th century the estate of Murdostoun was owned by the Inglis family but they died out, the last Inglis owner died about 1719, leaving no heirs. I think that family were all interred at Shotts.

Lodger

[Skoosh]

Try the Shotts Family History Society site for Kirk o Shotts.      Skoosh.