Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????

[julianb]

Spital Hill is an extension of the Wicker - the other side of the Railway Bridge, going out of the city centre.  It is a slow hill (if you see what I mean, but definitely a hill).

The 1855 old map is too early unfortunately.  There is no Sheaf Street - I guess that came from the time of the railway when they must have covered up the River Sheaf.  It runs underground for a mile orrso from the edge of the city centre, past (under) the (Midland) station area until it flows into the River Don.  I guess that's why they called it Sheaf Street!  An expert on the underground river is one Jarvis Cocker, but I don't expect he's a member of RootsChat.

There could well have been a hotel by the station.  Unfortunately they built a horrible office block there (just been demolished - because they are making the area ouside the staion sexy with a massive steel winding structure and cascading fountains).

Will think on 

JULIAN

[Paul E]

1895 Sheffield - but is this the Midland Station Hotel referred to? 

[J.J.]

You all are putting so much effort into this! hope there's an answer soon...

What if someone writes here:
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/planning-and-city-development/urban-design--conservation/conservation/listed-buildings

and inqures about the basic information gleaned, plus the photo...

I also found this, 1904 Sheffield timeline
Officially opend in this year were, George lV Inn, Infirmary Road
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/webpages/timeline.htm
it also mentions other hotels I don't remember seeing photos of...
e.g. Grand Hotel, Balm Green

I can't remember what we have and haven't covered and I've been perusing censuses all day...what do you think? as I'm off to do something much less exciting than barhopping, unfortunately...
But I'm with you in spirit, Annie...or...in spirits.... Hugs to all, can't wait to see what happens next!  J.J.

[joanne56]

Where did you find the map?
 It should be the right one but how could it also have an entrance on Sheaf Street as stated by the enumerator? and what of the one you found in the directory on Sheaf St. and Pond St.? 

Think I need a drink too.
Joanne

[juliew]

Curious Fox have maps for Sheffield, showing Sheaf Street and Flat Pond Street, Jaywit said about the ground being flat, could be.

http://www.curiousfox.com/

Julie

[joanne56]

Just noticed it is on Pond Street too, if the whole corner was the actual site, this is probably the right one that isn't there, (bit like the man on the stair).
Pond St. would be just about the right size for the sign in the photo too.
Joanne

[julianb]

Paul's map shows the location of the Midland Hotel which was referenced in the 1901 census.  

A quick reminder - two railway companies - Midland and Central.  The Midland Railway hotel is the one we are struggling to find, but there might have been an earlier Midland Hotel in the Wicker/Spital Hill area, because there used to be a station for the Midland Railway on the north side of the Central Railway on the 1855 map.

Confused?  You bet  

Curious Fox have maps for Sheffield, showing Sheaf Street and Flat Pond Street, Jaywit said about the ground being flat, could be.

http://www.curiousfox.com/

Julie

Yes it is flattish down by Pond St/Sheaf St - the river is underneath it all!

JULIAN

[Paul E]

Where did you find the map?
 It should be the right one but how could it also have an entrance on Sheaf Street as stated by the enumerator? and what of the one you found in the directory on Sheaf St. and Pond St.? 

Think I need a drink too.
Joanne

I've already succumbed to the G&Ts, I'm afraid.   I can only think that Station Road was subsumed by Sheaf Street, IF this is the same hotel.

[joanne56]

the Midland station near the Wicker is shown as a "goods yard" on one of the maps i looked at but I looked at so many i can't remember which. 

Joanne

Ps  just off to the off-licence