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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 22 February 07 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Here is a rather ornate coat of arms for Sheffield.  The bottom of the shield itself looks more curved, like the one on the building, as do most Sheffield crests I found on the internet.

http://www.fbs.group.shef.ac.uk/images/crest.jpg

My daughter came up behind me when I was enlarging the hotel picture to get a better look at the crest and she said it looked like a lady's face.  ???

Nina
CARSON - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
CLARK - Dunbarton
CORR - Glasgow and Ireland
COTTERILL - Glasgow and England
CROMBIE - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
DOCHERTY - Glasgow
EASTON - Dunbarton, Renfrew and Glasgow
GLANCY - Glasgow and Ireland
GORDON - Glasgow and Ireland
GRANELLI - Glasgow and Italy
LOGAN - Glasgow and Ireland
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 22 February 07 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Here is a rather ornate coat of arms for Sheffield.  The bottom of the shield itself looks more curved, like the one on the building, as do most Sheffield crests I found on the internet.

http://www.fbs.group.shef.ac.uk/images/crest.jpg

My daughter came up behind me when I was enlarging the hotel picture to get a better look at the crest and she said it looked like a lady's face.  ???

Nina

That one is actually the Sheffield University coat of arms.

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 22 February 07 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Oops...thought it had the same symbols on it.

Nina
CARSON - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
CLARK - Dunbarton
CORR - Glasgow and Ireland
COTTERILL - Glasgow and England
CROMBIE - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
DOCHERTY - Glasgow
EASTON - Dunbarton, Renfrew and Glasgow
GLANCY - Glasgow and Ireland
GORDON - Glasgow and Ireland
GRANELLI - Glasgow and Italy
LOGAN - Glasgow and Ireland
MAIN - Fearn, Ross & Cromarty and Glasgow
MCCORMICK - Glasgow and England
MCNICOL - Glasgow and Ireland
O'BRIEN - Glasgow and  Ireland
WATSON - Glasgow

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 22 February 07 09:31 GMT (UK) »
That enhancement looks very like the coat of arms here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sheffield which for me, as a frustrated participant in the original SheffieldForum thread, is very exciting  ;D

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 22 February 07 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Haven't time to read back through all the posts on this thread at the moment so maybe this has been solved,  but if you're looking for the name of the 'Railway Hotel' I can tell you it was the Victoria Hotel, situated on Station Approach, Sheffield and it was indeed the station for trains to Manchester.

I'm not sure it's the one in the picture though!

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 22 February 07 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Denn, is that photo of the coat of arms you have overlain on the original  an enhancement of the original, or is it an altered Sheffield Coat of Arms from another source (for comparison's sake)? 

Right now I am wondering if I am seeing things.  I am thinking I can see faint writing down next to the man with the cane on the left, almost level with his cane hand.  I cannot get it enlarged enough to see what it might be.  Also there may be some faint scrawl on the upper roof between the two upper windows on the right.

Also there is a bracket presumably used to hold a sign for the name of the establishment, attached to the wall just down and slightly to the right under the crown.  It doesn't appear to have a sign on it.  This makes me wonder if the hotel was a new purchase, or even if they took the sign down as it may be detracting from other decorations.

Nina
CARSON - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
CLARK - Dunbarton
CORR - Glasgow and Ireland
COTTERILL - Glasgow and England
CROMBIE - Glasgow, Ayr and Ireland
DOCHERTY - Glasgow
EASTON - Dunbarton, Renfrew and Glasgow
GLANCY - Glasgow and Ireland
GORDON - Glasgow and Ireland
GRANELLI - Glasgow and Italy
LOGAN - Glasgow and Ireland
MAIN - Fearn, Ross & Cromarty and Glasgow
MCCORMICK - Glasgow and England
MCNICOL - Glasgow and Ireland
O'BRIEN - Glasgow and  Ireland
WATSON - Glasgow

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 22 February 07 12:00 GMT (UK) »
I think I have found the architect.  Not sure but another Buxton family in Norfolk used Samuel Sanders Teulon.  The architecture  is very similar with the same gable ends.  Have a look at this.

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/default.asp?image=1317&document=3.V.2.2#imageA

Its only a thought.

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 22 February 07 12:03 GMT (UK) »
The Victoria hotel near the station was

http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/pages.php?enum=LE119&pnum=2&maxp=4

last picture on the page
Nope it isnt that.  Thanks for the suggestion though
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 22 February 07 12:05 GMT (UK) »
This is the original Royal Victoria Hotelhttp://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s07115
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