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Offline Sharon F

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Evan Evans
« on: Monday 18 September 06 19:10 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where Bromle... or Bromlia ?nr Wrecsam is in N Wales.  It appears as the birth place of Evan Evans who was living in Stoke-on-Trent, England on the 1861 census with wife Ellen (born Oswestery, Shropshire) with 7 children all born in Stoke-on-Trent.

I can not find Evan Evans on the BMD or other sites I have looked at.  His wedding certificate (1848) states his father as being 'Cadwalater' Evans.  I cannot find Cadwalater any where.  I have been looking at Cadwallader (in various spelling forms).


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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 September 06 19:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Do you think it could be Brymbo?  This is where the steel works was and is in Wrexham area.

Birth registration didnt come in until 1837 so Evan's birth would not be on BMD sites. You would need to look through the parish registers for Brymbo before that date.

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Williams, Roberts, Jones, in Merioneth,  Flintsshire, Denbigh and Caernarfonshire, Hughes in Caernarfonshire and Liverpool , Arnold, Mongomeryshire, Caernarfon and Denbighshire
Higgins in Kent/Essex

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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 September 06 19:26 BST (UK) »
The first thing to point out is that I can't see him living in Stoke-On-Trent in 1861 as you describe.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 September 06 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Titch,

Thank you.  I will try and follow Brymbo through.  Certainly worth a try.


Hi WRJones,

The 1861 original print out states him living at Upper Hill Street, Longton, Stoke-on-Trent and birth place as Bromle.....nr Wrecsam, N Wales.

Why can't you see him living in Stoke-on-Trent at that time.

Thanks for your input.




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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 September 06 19:56 BST (UK) »
Have you got the numbers for the Census Entry?

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 September 06 20:03 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has him listed as "Even" Evans,and I have seen the entry now,and I would say it was definitely Brymbo as alongside it has written Wrexham.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 September 06 20:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you!

This has shown me where to look next.

Very grateful for your help.

Regards
Sharon F
(Evans Family)

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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 September 06 20:16 BST (UK) »
Sharon in 1841 there are two Cadwalader Evans in Denbighshire.

Tyn y Capel,Corwen,Cerrig y Dridron,Denbighshire.
HO107/1402/1 Folio 48 Page 5

Cadwalader Evans,45,Ag Lab,Yes.
Mary Evans,35,Yes.

Ruithin,Gyffylliog,Denbighshire.
HO107/1404 Folio 10 Page 14.

Cadwalader Evans,70,Mole Catcher,Yes
Elizabeth Evans,55,Yes.

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: Evan Evans
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 September 06 20:21 BST (UK) »
The first thing to point out in any earlier search is that the 1841 Census for the area is missing.Secondly Brymbo only became a Parish in its own right in 1844.Up until then any records for Brymbo will be included in the Wrexham Parish see;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/Brymbo/index.html

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk