( London) 1841/ 1851/ 1861 Census Lookup Requests Please For Richard Rossiter

[rcuser]

Hi,

I am looking for information please about the parents and siblings of Richard Rossiter born circa 1829 in Shoreditch.

I found him in the 1881 Census with some of his own family here:- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_459641&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

He married Ann ( maiden name unknown). I've tried FreeBMD for a marriage but found no obvious candidates.

Any information would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Best wishes

rcuser

[trish251]

Hi rcuser

All I can find at the minute is a maybe 1861 (it is a toymaker  )

1861 RG9/207  55/6 St Luke Middlesex - its a ghastly image - the address may be 12 White Street
probably should be 13, Enumerator seems to have missed a change of house

Richard Rossiter head mar 32 Toy Maker  Hackney
Ann  do  wife mar 31 toy maker wife Shoreditch
Ann do daur 11 scholar St Lukes
Peter do son 7 scholar St lukes
Sarah do daur 4 scholar Bethnal Green
Emma do daur 11m St lukes

If I could find 1871 I could maybe match some children - or 1851 - I looked for young Ann with no joy at all - sorry

Trish

[rcuser]

Hi Trish,

Thanks for that. It definitely looks like the right family as Richard's occupation matches and the children in the 1881 Census were also born either at St Lukes or Bethnal Green. So this is Richard  with the younger children of his family.

Hopefully, the 1841 and 1851 census will show who his parents and siblings are. The 1871 Census will show any children born after Emma and confirm they are all part of the same family.

Best wishes

rcuser

[jennifer c]

Hi, Could not find a match on my 1841 index and only one match a Richard age 22 a porter at the House of Commons born Ireland with his parents Michael & Elizabeth brothers Michael & John Will. and sister Elizabeth all born Ireland.  25 Gt College St Westminster 1479 folio 208.

Jennifer

[rcuser]

Hi Jennifer,

Many thanks for that. Could you post their details with their ages or years of birth please and I'll put them in my database?

Best wishes

rcuser

[jennifer c]

1851   1479 fol 208   25 Gt College Street Westminster
Michael Rossiter 55 Waiter at House of Commons
Elizabeth 56
Richard 22 Porter House of Commons
Michael 15
Elizabeth 13
John William 9

All born Ireland

Jennifer

[MJP]

This looks like them in 1871 (image pretty clearly says Rochester, but everything else matches...)

RG10/495/28/50
18 Middle Walk Court, Bethnal Green
Richard Rochester, Head, 42, Toy Maker, b. Shoreditch
Ann, Wife, 41, b. "
Ann, Daur, 22, Flower Maker, b. St. Lukes
Sarah, Daur, 14, Flower Maker, b. Bethnal Green
Jessie(?), Daur, 10, Scholar, b. St. Lukes (is this "Emma"?)
Agnes, Daur, 7, Scholar, b. St Lukes
Jane, Daur, 3, Scholar, b. Bethnal Green
Richard, Son, 9 months, b. Bethnal Green

MJP

[MJP]

I found this longshot for 1851, but there is other evidence that shows it may not be too far off...

1851
HO107/1520/161/22
7 Cressden(?) St. West, St. Lukes, Middlesex
Richard Darter(?), Head, 32, Warehouseman, b. Wiltshire Wimbre(?)
Ann, Wife, 34, b. Hereford Eardsland
Susanna, Daur, 4, b. Surrey Lambeth
Ann H., Daur, 2, b. St. Lukes
Fanny M. ?idd, Mother-in-law, Widow, 64, Hereford, Eardsland
John ?, Visitor, 22, Drapers Assistant, b. Devon
Richard Boyer, Visitor, 22, Draper's Assistant, b. Cornwall
William Lerome, Lodger, 24, Warehouseman, b. Middlesex Fulham
Margaret Chin(?), 24, Servant, b. Ireland

This is what I got when I searched for an Ann born circa 1850 with parents Richard and Ann.  I know the parent's birthplaces are completely wrong, but...

St. Lukes is in the Finsbury District, and look what we find in IGI, all baptised at Saint Thomas Chartrhouse, Finsbury, all children of Richard and Ann Rossiter:

Ann 8 Jul 1849 (born 11 Jun) making her 2 in 1851
Richard 12 Oct 1851 (born 21 Sep)
Peter 4 Dec 1853 (born 15 Nov)
Agnes 18 Oct 1863 (born 1 Oct)
Jessie 18 Oct 1863 (born 6 Mar 1861)
Emily Caroline 3 Jun 1866 (born 9 May)

OK, so maybe the surname Darter and the wierd birthplaces are still eidence against it, but it is a possibility? 

I was trying to find a marriage using the mother-in-law's surname, but I can't quite make it out.  Also, Richard and Ann are common names and the marriage could have been anywhere - St Lukes, Shoreditch, Bethnal Green, or even different counties if these birthplaces are correct.  Plus the variations in the spelling of Rossiter makes it too many variables...

MJP

[rcuser]

Hi Jennifer / MJP,

Many thanks to both of you for your posts.

Must admit that the task is complicated by the different Richard & Anns in the London area. You can never really be sure you are talking about the same family.

I've tried searching FreeBMD for a marriage for Richard &  Ann and used Kidd, Nidd & Ridd as possibly surnames for Ann but no luck.It is of course possible that FreeBMD hasn't transcribed the  marriage yet.

For the time being I've made a composite list of the names common to most liosts. I'll have to puzzle out how I'm going to solve this.

In the meantime can someone find Richard in the 1841 Census please so I can link him up to his ancestors? The names of his parents and siblings might be reflected in his family names.

Best wishes

rcuser