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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 October 06 21:14 BST (UK) »
Hi  ;D
Erm......And when would that birth have happened?

Do you know the names of her parents?
What her father did for a living?
Any siblings?

Have you found her on Censii??

We'd love to be able to solve this for you  ;D

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 October 06 22:20 BST (UK) »
This all mainly taken from their marriage certificate.

My great grandmother was called Maria Ainsworth. She was born in 1882 (as I said apparently in Kendal). She married Joseph Gibson, a coachman (born 1884, location uknown) in Preston, Lancashire on September 17th 1906. Her father was called John Ainsworth who was a labourer. She was living at 14 Jason Street, Preston at the time of her marriage. Joseph was living at number 24. Joseph's dad (cannot make out his name yet) had died before the wedding. He was a horse dealer. It is suspected that his family were travellers so it may be difficult to trace them on the census before 1901... That is all I have for Maria and Joseph at the minute!

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 October 06 22:47 BST (UK) »
Hey guys I searched the 1901 census and found a Maria Ainsworth born in Preston, 1882 (one year off I know). Father John, and her mother and a couple of her brothers and sisters were born in... you guessed it BACKBARROW!

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 October 06 23:33 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D Well,  there you go!  a little lateral movement and the problem is solved!!

Just goes to show - there's often a lot of  truth and a little mistake, or vice-versa -  in all all family tales!

I can see the family in 1891 Lancashire if you want the details?

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 October 06 23:52 BST (UK) »
Ah would be great thanks.

I have found her father John in the BMD's aswell, born 1841 in Preston. I would like some details on the mother if possible, she was called Maria aswell, born in Backbarrow in 1844.

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 October 06 02:05 BST (UK) »
Hi

1891:Preston Lancashire
RG12 - 3434 / F123 / Pg32
ADDRESS: 12 Springfield Court
Head: John AINSWORTH 50, Brewer's Assistant. b Preston Lanc
Wife: Maria AINSWORTH 47, b Backbarrow Lanc (sic)
Dau: Mary A AINSWORTH  23, unm, Cotton Weaver, b Backbarrow Lanc (sic)
Son: Thomas AINSWORTH  21, unm, Hawker, b Backbarrow Lanc (sic)
Dau: Jane AINSWORTH 15, unm, Cotton Weaver, b Preston Lanc
Dau: Elizabeth AINSWORTH  13, Scholar, b Preston Lanc
Dau: Maria AINSWORTH  10, Scholar, b Preston Lanc

I'm looking at this and at the gap between the 21 year old and the 15 year old which coincides with a change in birthplace of the children  (and the 1881 basically is the same) and wondering if it was a second marriage situation - possibly of Maria's........

Because I'm having a dickens of a time finding them in 1871.......nothing is ever easy is it  ???

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 October 06 09:17 BST (UK) »
In 1881 the family are at 15 Evan St, Preston (RG11/4232 ed1 ff31 p58 & ff32 p59)

John Ainsworth, head, M, 40, Cotton spinner, Lancashire Preston
Maria Ainsworth, wife, M, 37, Housewife, Lancashire Ulverstone
Margaret Ellen Ainsworth daur, 15, Cotton Rover, Lancashire Ulverstone
Mary Ann Ainsworth daur, 13, Cotton Weaver, Lancashire Ulverstone
Thomas do, son, 11, Scholar, Lancashire Preston
Jane do, daur, 5, Scholar, Lancashire Preston
Elizabeth do, daur, 3, -, Lancashire Preston
Maria do, daur, 1 month, -, Lancashire Preston

The extra children might help the search.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 October 06 09:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for that!

I need to find the mother's maiden surname but when I try searching on the BMD's it doesn't provide the mother's maiden surname, only the name of the child, volume and page  ???

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Re: Backborough/Blackborough Kendal?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 October 06 09:34 BST (UK) »
It's clearly a word ending they use around there ... if you look at Kendal at www.old-maps.co.uk you'll see a Skewbarrow and Kirkbarrow very close to Kendal.

I would just like to thank Geoff by the way. You were the first person to draw my attention to BackBARROW. Clearly there was a misinterpretation of the spelling due to my family's accent. Our strong Lancashire accents do not pronounce the O in BarrOw, we shorten it to make it sound as if we are saying BarrOUGH, BackBarrough, hence the confusion with Backborough I suppose...

Thanks,

Ryan