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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 October 06 09:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrea,

Is it possible to get the will online?  Is it on the National Archives documents online site?

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 October 06 17:16 GMT (UK) »
hi diane

no it is not listed on A2A  that was my original hope  too.


 i believe i saw it at a local studies library

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #11 on: Friday 10 November 06 09:32 GMT (UK) »

i have a copy of John channer Will Listed as JOHN CHANOLER
he is a game keeper from little marlow  dated 4 jan 1800 proved 21 may 1800

he makes john nash  gentleman of chepping wycombe his executor

money goes first to him and his family,
then what is left to his daughter lucy Wright wife of Arthur Wright


it leaves me back with a slight problem is  this the daughter john and mary  channor had christened 1764 penn

as all the other children are not mentioned
and some were still alive .

i presume john nash was the land owner wher john was the game keeper .

i believe john`s father was john channor christened 1699 little missenden
i have children for him and his 2nd wife  mary

i think he married eliza fellows 1724 penn i dont think they had children but
perhaps  john is their son

then john had children with mary. i cant find a marriage

 1729-1739  in penn  again  no son john that i can see
eliza1729
ambrose 1731
hannah 1733
charles 1736
still born child  1739

this mary i believe died 1761 
and john  died 1781 as a pauper .

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #12 on: Friday 10 November 06 20:22 GMT (UK) »
From a 1764 baptism this would make Lucy 15 on marriage if the baptism took place shortly after her birth.

ARTHUR WRIGHT 
LUCY CHANNER 
Marriage:  About 23 JUN 1779   High Wycombe, Buckingham

Under 21 and the marriage register (and or banns) should state she married under age and if your are lucky whose permission was given for her marriage. Marrying at 15 though not illegal was rare.

Remember there are no baptisms (or very few entries from the actual parish registers) for High Wycombe on the IGI only marriages.
If you have not checked the High Wycombe parish registers (Buckinghamshire Family History Society have coverage in their baptism database 1674-1837)

http://www.bucksfhs.com/

you will always be unsure whether any potential baptisms occurred in High Wycombe.

The Bucks FHS marriage index is countywide up to 1837.

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #13 on: Friday 10 November 06 22:41 GMT (UK) »
sorry  date mentiones last entry  was wrong

i mentioned  the correct date earlier
 christenning was 29 may 1760 penn


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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 November 06 03:11 GMT (UK) »
From the Philllimore Buckinghamshire Marriage Transcripts of High Wycombe (Archive CD Books)

Arthur Wright & Lucy Channer, lic

Would this mean she was underage and required permission ?

Arthur Wright was born 28 Dec 1758 and was bap 28th May  1760.  His Father was John Wright Farmer Amersham and Penn mother Rose Wright maiden name unknown.

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 November 06 07:03 GMT (UK) »
It just means the marriage was by licence and not by banns. Nothing significant there re the age of either the bride or groom. A marriage allegation of about this date should give the bride and groom's ages. If it has survived the allegation will be in Bucks Record Office.

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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 November 06 00:18 GMT (UK) »
A contact told me that John Channer - the father of Lucy Channer (Wright) married a Mary Simpson 1757.  But he can't remember where the record came from..  We have ascertained that John Channer who married Sarah Dennis also married Mary Wingrove.  Are these John Channers the same person?  This is all getting rather confusing!
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Re: Lucy CHANNER
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 November 06 08:34 GMT (UK) »
this is still what we are trying to sort out


why john only refered to his daughter in his will

and why the transcript from bucks spelt the entry for  lucy christennning as john chanoler ( same as the will). mother mary

while all the other children were channer  mother mary

so are we looking for a completly differnt john ?

perhaps this john is related to the  mathew channer who`s family came from france !

buckinghamshire doies have a couple of other records for chanoler`s

perhaps that how the name was spelt then


andrea