!861 & 71 Census SAICH - COMPLETE Thank you

[behindthefrogs]

Can anyone find Thomas John Saich for me in !861 and 1871.  I am particularly interested in what his job was in those census.

He was born in Paddington in 1840 and was married to Sarah Churchill in Ruislip in 1866 where two of his children were born.

Ann Elizabeth in 1867 and Florence in 1872.  However Arthur was born in Hanwell in 1870.

I have other evidence that he was living in Ealing prior to 1867 and may have been in debtors prison in 1867 when his first child was probably born at Sarah's parents home in Ruislip.

His jobs seem to vary between farm bailiff, Corn and Coal Merchant, Hay Dealer and labourer.

Many thanks
David 

[Cas (stallc)]

Is this your man?

1861 - RG9 Piece 769 Folio 5 Page 3
Reg district: Uxbridge 
Sub-reg district: Hayes 

Civil Parish: Ruislip

Address little manor
 
Matthew Saich 60  hd, mar, farmer of 160 acres employer of 2, runslip
Mary Ann Saich 49 wife, st george, hanover
Thomas Saich 19  s, farmers son, paddington
William Saich 18 s, "
Henry Meadows 25, farm serv, carter runslip
Ann Ryley 60 , house serv, ireland

cas

[Cas (stallc)]

1871 - RG10 Piece 1323 Folio 46 Page 49

Civil Parish: Hanwell 
7 Oak Cottages

Thomas Platford 37  hd wheelwright
Emily Platford 30 wife
and 3 children
Thomas J Saich 30 marr, lodger, dealer, Caddeetor, Middlesex ( image could be Paddington?)

Cas

[behindthefrogs]

Thank you Cas.  That is him still with his parents in 1861.  I wonder where his wife and children were in 1871.

David

[jorose]

Wife and one child, at least:

RG 10/1510 Folio 35 Page 7
Ruislip
Black House, Eastcote Road
Joseph H. Churchill, 36, Licensed Victualler (Publican written, then crossed out), Ruislip
Hannah, wife, 36, b. Soho
Arthur A, son, 7, b. Eastcote
Walter, son, 5, b. "
John, son, 2, b. "
Sarah Saich, visitor, married, 25, b. Ruislip
Arthur, visitor (son written and crossed out), 1, b. Eastcote

And the other child:
RG 10/1510 Folio 13 Page 23
Ruislip
Farm House
Charles Churchill, 62, occupation is I think 'Land O??? 33 acres 1 lab.', b. Ruislip
Ann, wife, 58, b. "
Arthur, son, 31, helper on farm, b. "
Jason, son, 19, ", b."
Ann E Saich, granddaughter, 3, b. "

[behindthefrogs]

Thank you Jorose.  I have now worked out that both parents died in 1878 and the children were spread around various relatives in 1881.

Intreguingly Thomas's brother William married the daughter of Joseph Churchill and then ran the Black Horse Inn, and Thomas's son Herbert changed his name to Churchill by deed poll in 1919.

David