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James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« on: Sunday 15 October 06 00:06 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can help me with confirming that I have the right couple.

JAMES DICKSON  was born 30/03/1812 in Mouswald, Dumfries, Scotland.  He possibly married ELIZABETH EDGAR 27/11/1833 in Mouswald, Dumfries.  She was born Abt. 1812 (could be earlier SWAG* in use), unknown POB and died about 06/03/1852 in New York, USA according to Dumfries newspaper obit.  I have no idea on her parents or siblings and would like to find which EDGARs she belongs to.


Children of JAMES DICKSON and ELIZABETH EDGAR are:
   i.   MARGARET DICKSON, b. 17/08/1834, Mouswald, Dumfries, Scotland.
   ii.   THOMAS DICKSON, b. Abt. 1836, Mouswald, Dumfries.
   iii.    MARY DICKSON, b. Abt. 1838, Mouswald, Dumfries, Scotland.
   iv.   RICHARD DICKSON, b. 12/03/1841, Dalton, Dumfries, Scotland.
   v.   HENRY DICKSON, b. 07/01/1843, Dalton, Dumfries, Scotland.
   vi.   JOHN FELL DICKSON, b. 15/02/1845, Dalton, Dumfries, Scotland.

My reasoning for the possible union is that the 2nd & 3rd children could be named after James's parents Thomas Dickson & Mary Glendinning and Richard (No. iv) is also his grandfathers name.  John Fell was the Joiner husband of an aunt of his, Jean or Jane Dickson.  James was a Blacksmith according to the 1841 Census like many in his family. 

I believe that they migrated to the US, obviously between 1845 and 1852 and I am unaware of what happened to them after that or if any of the children stayed in Scotland, most likely Margaret if anyone.  There are also possiblity of other children not found yet.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Mick Dickson
Toowoomba QLD
Australia

* SWAG = Scientific Wild A*** Guess

Dumfries -Campbell, Dickson, Glendinning, Grierson, Irving, Jardine, Wells, also Beattie, Brown, Buckham, Charters, Dalrymple, Fell, Ferguson, Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Hutchison, Leivers, Nichol, Mckenzie, Nicholson, Smith, White, McLean
Kirkcudbright - Dickson, Broun/Brown, Shennan
Glasgow-Dickson, Neilson, Thomson, Fleming, Mackenzie, Dennison
Edinburgh- Dickson, Buckham
Ayrshire-McIlwrick, McMurray, Gray, Findlay
Limerick - Shea / O'Shea, Carroll
Kerry - Egan
Sussex - Towner

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Re: James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 October 06 00:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Mick

This is also a wee bit of a SWAG  ;)

The only Elizabeth Edgar, with mother Margaret,  that I can find around then is a baptism on 21 March 1811, in the Parish of Inch, Wigtownshire. Parents - William Edgar and Margaret Edgar.

Can't see any others that seem to fit  :-\

Gadget

PS - however, she must have died because the same parents, in the same parish had a daughter, Elizabeth, baptised  21 March 1816, which seems very odd - same details except for the year  :-\
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Re: James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 October 06 00:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget,

I will keep her in mind.  I couldn't find one either, I'm still thinking she of the Mouswald parish Edgars though.  Thanks again.

Cheers

Mick
Dumfries -Campbell, Dickson, Glendinning, Grierson, Irving, Jardine, Wells, also Beattie, Brown, Buckham, Charters, Dalrymple, Fell, Ferguson, Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Hutchison, Leivers, Nichol, Mckenzie, Nicholson, Smith, White, McLean
Kirkcudbright - Dickson, Broun/Brown, Shennan
Glasgow-Dickson, Neilson, Thomson, Fleming, Mackenzie, Dennison
Edinburgh- Dickson, Buckham
Ayrshire-McIlwrick, McMurray, Gray, Findlay
Limerick - Shea / O'Shea, Carroll
Kerry - Egan
Sussex - Towner

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Re: James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 October 06 01:14 BST (UK) »
Yes,  I  looked at the Mousewald Edgars. There's and Isobel Edgar, bpt. 24 Sept 1812 to Thomas Edgar and Agnes Ker(r) . Other poss parents around the time seem to be John Edgar and Jean Dickson and Thomas Edgar and Mary Douglas (? a 2nd marriage).

Gadget

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Re: James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 October 06 01:49 BST (UK) »
Mick

In 1841 the family were living in Dalton Village:

818 - 12 -1
Dalton village

James Dickson, 25-29, Blacksmith, b. County
Eliza, 25-29, born County
Margaret, 6, born County
Thomas, 4, born County
Mary, 2, born County
Richard, 2 months, born County

It might be worth your while having a look at the 1851, just in case they are still in Scotland.

Gadget

PS but no bpts for Eliza Edgars that I can see. Are you sure that she was an Edgar?
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Re: James Dickson & Elizabeth Edgar of Mouswald, Dalton & USA
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 October 06 03:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget again,

I couldn't find them in 1851 and yes she is a Edgar I have a copy of the extract from GROS.  It only tells me that they were proclaimed and married and the dates as per the other records on the page...no other info as to origin.

Mick
Dumfries -Campbell, Dickson, Glendinning, Grierson, Irving, Jardine, Wells, also Beattie, Brown, Buckham, Charters, Dalrymple, Fell, Ferguson, Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Hutchison, Leivers, Nichol, Mckenzie, Nicholson, Smith, White, McLean
Kirkcudbright - Dickson, Broun/Brown, Shennan
Glasgow-Dickson, Neilson, Thomson, Fleming, Mackenzie, Dennison
Edinburgh- Dickson, Buckham
Ayrshire-McIlwrick, McMurray, Gray, Findlay
Limerick - Shea / O'Shea, Carroll
Kerry - Egan
Sussex - Towner