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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 October 06 07:58 GMT (UK) »
I'd wondered about the age discrepancy between the 1851 and the 1881 for Peter, Agnes and family.  If the 1851 is right, then the youngest children on the 1881 can't be their daughters.
I've tried Scotlandspeope for John and Jane.  Could "Jane" be Jean rather than Janet?  I can tie a marriage of John Balantine to Jean Metlen in 1797 to the birth of a John Balantine in 1776 in the same parish.  But there I'm stumped.
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.

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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 October 06 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Might have better luck looking for Hugh to help in this one...census data is so unreliable as far as ages go...It can change census to ceensus...
Jane Jean and Janet seem interchangeable...so who knows?

If I hadn't seen the "J" in John I'd have thought it was Pam...myself! ;D  ::) 

Brickwall not down completely....but you'll get it...Ancestors didn't make it easy for us, did they?

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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 October 06 22:10 GMT (UK) »
I followed the look-ups link you gave me and found someone with Pontiac County records.  She couldn't help, only had marriages, but she gave me a link to grave inscriptions and I found what I hope is my great-great-grandfather's grave.  Brick wall not down, but several courses knocked away.
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.

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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #12 on: Monday 30 October 06 00:32 GMT (UK) »
No marriage for Peter for Peter and Agnes, awe, that's too bad...
Great to have the stone, though...

Don't think it's unusual for elderly to keep having children...birthing years can last into a woman's 50's and 60's...and with no birth control......
And for men, well, my husband's ancestor was between 66 and 70 when he fathered his last child... ;)
Also, they could have been a son's children in 1881...but they surely follow a natural progression, don't they? :)

I suppose one might consider that John & Jane may have been aunt & uncle rather than parents...or that John could have remarried, etc...
Hope something concrete is out there for you.... :D  J.J.
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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 October 06 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Does this lookups person have any Ballentine children's marriages that might help confirm the names of the parents? J.J.
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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #15 on: Monday 06 September 10 04:35 BST (UK) »
Please Note that this is a very old query before replying!!!
Actually should ask the thread owner if she has found more through other sources...Don't see any other queries on rootschat.

Thought I's see if more information is available  It doesn't help that Agnes's father Peter says he is born 1804 in 1851, and 1811 & 1813 on others...
Here are the newer children in 1881 if anyone can find the mother's surname
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_1195760

Peter Ballentine married a young Octava M. Turner in Michigan, but stated no parents!
There is a Hugh Ballentine death in Ontario that says he was born Bristol England but I wonder if he was actually born Que and perhaps a marriage can be easily found to show the mother Agnes's surname
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Have another Ontario marriage!!!
Rev. George BALLANTYNE age 38 years, born Bristol PQ  / Bride Mary YOUNG
Parents Peter BALLANTYNE and Agnes REED
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~oncerin/marriage/Marriages_1888.htm

and a marriage for Hugh above has mother as Agnes Reid
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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #16 on: Monday 06 September 10 04:59 BST (UK) »
Oh, Dear!!  Have I previously led this into a red Herring, as there are three deaths for children in Carleton Ontario and one is for an Agnes Moore, born 1846 Quebec....added for clarity: all with mother Agnes Reid/Reed

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Re: Agnes Ballantyne, Quebec
« Reply #17 on: Monday 06 September 10 05:13 BST (UK) »
Argh, starting over years later...
 there must be a bad transcription on the 1851 as there is another
Agnes Balantyne Birth 1846 -  Québec County, Canada East (Quebec)

P 2...Line 4 - 1861 census (Montcalm), Québec, Quebec
Agnes Ballentyne   1845  Montreal Religion E. C. Scotland
 

Someone can now do a lookup to find this other Agnes, hopefully yours, as more resources are available...
First better check parish Clarke/Ballantyne marriage took place...

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