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Offline Wyn Rawson

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Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« on: Monday 06 November 06 05:44 GMT (UK) »
Since the 1901 census I have no information on Ruth & Herbert Crookes and their daughter Ruth.
Is it possible there is someone out there with a lead for me please.
Did Ruth jnr. marry , were there brothers or sisters born to the family.
Anything would be a help in finding them. Wyn.
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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 November 06 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Wyn,

Could you post the information from the 1901 Census, in particular the full address. Then we have a clue where to start looking.

Jon
Armitage-Smith Meanwood Leeds
Whitehead-Holroyd Farnley/Wortley/Armley Leeds

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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 November 06 12:32 GMT (UK) »
hello Wyn,

I don't know where this 1901 info comes from but I find it confusing. They can't all have the middle initial 'N' so what does the 'N' mean?

I can't find any of these individuals using the online 1901 index. Is the last named Ruth the daughter? What is her age? The address would help, and also an occupation for Herbert (if 'Barbara' is indeed Herbert).

Hugh
(Sheffield)
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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hugh for your reply. Ross my son sent the last letter to you and I don't think he understood what was required.
Herbert Nicholls Crookes b:1872. His wife Ruth Nicholls Crookes(Juggins) b;1877 and their daughter Ruth Nicholls Crooks b:1900 all born Sheffield area.
They lived at 4 - 1 house Sunderland St. Sheffield. Yorkshire.This information was from the 1901 Census.
What I was wanting to know was, did they have anymore children, or where do I go for that information.
With thanks Wyn.
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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 00:46 GMT (UK) »
I'm guessing that the family has used NICHOLLS CROOKES as a double-barrelled name?! Otherwise the elder Ruth would not have it - but it's a handy marker while searching for these people. Nevertheless I still can't find them in the 1901 index.

I took a look for a marriage for the daughter and I think I got lucky:

GRO Marriages DEC Qtr 1921
BRADBURY  Harry T
CROOKES Ruth N 
Ecclesall Bierlow 9c 879

I didn't look any further, and this might not be the right one, but the following seems to add a little weight to it:

White's 1919/20 Directory of Sheffield
Pomona Street
45 Bradbury Harry   chauffeur
51 Crookes Herbert Nichols  (j) table blade grinder

j=journeyman

By this time the birth indexes record the mother's maiden name so you could search them for Bradbury children with Crookes as a maiden name starting with the date of the marriage and working forward.

My particular interest with these people is the following burial in Walkley Cemetery (I am the chaiman of the Friends of this cemetery):

[name/date of burial/address or place where death occurred/ age/grave]
CROOKES   Herbert Nicholls 9 Aug 1926   51 Pomona St.   54   G37

There are two other burials recorded for this grave (so far: the database is not quite complete):

LINTON Pearson? 24 Dec 1930 86 Freedom Rd 80 G37
VOCE John 5 May 1931 12 Herries Rd 65 G37

Note: 12 Herries Road means the Hospital that later became the Northern General Hospital.

I have no idea what the connection might be between these people, but it appears from my plans that there is a gravestone, not yet recorded. There is no sign of the Bradburys or the elder Ruth in the cemetery.

Do you know where the name NICHOLLS comes from in this family?

Hugh in Sheffield      


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Re: Ruth & Herbert Crookes
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 02:15 GMT (UK) »
Hugh my connection with the Crookes family only goes to the marriage of Ruth Juggins as she was my fathers (William Juggins b:1898-9) Aunt.
Yes they are on the 1901 Census page 17 entry 125 Ecclesall Bierlow.
Thanks for the marriage information on Ruth Jr.
This Juggins family were in Sheffield by 1872 prior to that Luton Bedford.
With thanks Wyn 
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