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found a possible American GG Grandfather
« on: Tuesday 14 November 06 10:36 GMT (UK) »
found a possible American GG Grandfather on ancestry. Can a very nice person check them for me they are:
1870 United States Federal Census

 
Name:    George A Cherry      
Birth:    abt 1869 - location      
Residence:    1870 - city, New York, New York   
1880 United States Federal Census
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Name:    George A. Cherry      
Birth:    abt 1869 - New York      
Residence:    1880 - New York (Manhattan), New York, New York   

1900 United States Federal Census
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Name: George A Cherry Spouse: Bertha Birth: abt 1862 - location Residence: 1900 - city, New York, New York

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Name:    George A Cherry      
Residence:    city, Sullivan, New York   
any help on anof these very gratefully recieved.
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Cherry Crouch Sapsford

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Re: found a possible American GG Grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 November 06 18:12 GMT (UK) »
1870 census
New York Ward 1 District 2, New York, NY
Martin Cherry 29  Ireland  Soda Waterman?
Mary Cherry  28  Ireland  Keeping house
Francis E Cherry 7  New York   
William Cherry  5  New York
Martin E Cherry  3  New York 
George A Cherry  1  New York   

1880 census
New York (Manhattan), New York, NY
Martin Cherry  40 Ireland  Head   Mineral waters parents born Ireland
Mary Cherry  40 Ireland  Wife  Housekeeping parents born Ireland
Frances Cherry  17 New York  Daughter   
William H. Cherry 15 New York  Son   
Martin Cherry 13 New York  Son   
George A. Cherry  11 New York  Son 
 
The George A. Cherry of 1900 was aged 38 (though his birthdate was given as October 1870) born in New York. He stated his parents were also born in New York. His occupation was a painter.
On the 1920 census in Manhatten however (still married to Bertha with one son Robert aged 13) he was a physician in general practice aged 49 born New York, with parents born Ireland. Ditto 1930 census but parents were back to being born in New York.

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Valda
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Re: found a possible American GG Grandfather
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks V V much don't think he is my George Alton Cherry my one came to England and Died in 1891 aged only 31 - 33 but he had a son named after him my G Grandfather with my G G Grandmother Martha Cherry (Norman) but mine was a GP. Thanks again for taking the time to look them up Regards Lee.
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Re: found a possible American GG Grandfather
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Then wasn't he Canadian, not American?

1891 census RG12 537 folio 15
120 Plumstead Road Woolwich London
George A Cherry 28 Single Physician Surgeon born Canada
plus 1 boarder and 1 servant

There are two George Cherrys on the 1881 Canadian census both aged  19 and born in Ontario.

I can't see a marriage for George Alton Cherry between 1891 and 1893.

Births Jun 1893
Cherry  George Alton    W.Ham  4a 294

Deaths Jun 1893
Cherry  George Alton  31  W. Ham  4a 114

1901 census RG13 1583 folio 54
42 Agate Street West Ham
Martha Cherry 32 Head Widow Laundress
George A Cherry 8 Son Canning Town
Ada B Cherry 6  Daughter Canning Town
Rose Cherry 2  Daughter Canning Town
John Norman 28 Visitor Dock Labourer Canning Town

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Re: found a possible American GG Grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi halsaps,

If your guy is indeed the Canadian one that Valda refers to , then I would concentrate your efforts on the 19-year-old in 1881 who lives in York West (now part of Toronto).  He is listed as being a student and is much more likely to be your doctor than the other guy who lives in Lanark, a rural county.    (That one is still in Burgess, Lanark in 1901)

I can find no reference yet to him having a middle name of Alton, which would prove your link, but I do see that the sister from the 1881 entry - Ruth - marries in 1891 and the father - Abner - dies in 1923, both in York Co.  So at least you know the rest of the family stayed even if George left. 

I can find no reference to a marriage of a George Cherry to a Martha in the Ontario BMDs, but then he is single in 1891 so I would expect the marriage to be in England. 

You might want to check www.pagesofthepast.com (digital archives of the Toronto Star) for a report of George's death in 1893.  If this is indeed his family, I would expect that his death in England would have been reported. 

You might also try emailing the University of Toronto Faculty of Medicine Alumni Association to see if they have any sources that would indicate a George Cherry being a medical student in the early 1880s. 
http://www.facmed.utoronto.ca/English/page-13-6293-1.html

If you come up with any other leads, come visit us over in the Emigrants Canada section and we'll be happy to see what else we can dig up for you!   :D

MJP

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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)

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Re: found a possible American GG Grandfather
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 November 06 12:54 GMT (UK) »
thanks for your replies. I am still not for deffinate sure wheather he was Canadian or American because I have also seen on Ancestry a George Alton Cherry on the Passenger lists
who came to England in 1887 but I will follow up your leads you have given me.
                        Regards Lee
Cherry Crouch Sapsford