Cartwright/Henderson/Morrell - UPDATE- COMPLETED!

[SASHAR]

I have now acquired some certificates but will try and recap from my last posting.
1881 Census (1) at Morman Rd, Bow - Isaac & Hannah CARTWRIGHT, Cabinet Maker with 7 children.  The 6th child is Isaac Jnr, aged 9
(2) also at Bow - Caroline MORRELL aged 31, a daughter CHARLOTTE aged 2 is with her.  They are living with her brother-in-law and his family.  It appears Caroline's husband John, a glass blower, may have died MarQ 1881 at St Savior.

1891 Census - Dane Place, St Mary Straford by Bow - Isaac & Hannah with 7 children.  ISAAC Jnr b. Bow, is now 19yrs old.
At the same address are Caroline MORRELL, widow, laundress and her 2 daughters.  CHARLOTTE is 12yrs b. Lambeth and Caroline age 2 is b. Poplar.

In Mar Q 1899 Isaac Cartwright & Charlotte Morrell marry - Poplar 1c 735
In 1901 Census at Hackney, Isaac and Charlotte have 2 children.  Albert Edward, age 2 b.Bow and Florence aged 1, b. Bow.

I now have the following certficates:-

Birth:-  on 7.9.1898 at 131 Usher Rd, Bow, of Albert Edward MORRELL.  Mother, Charlotte Morrell, Trimming Maker - no father named.  Informant was Charlotte.
This birthdate fits with information on Albert Edwards death record.   

Marriage:- on 14.5.1923 at St Lukes Church, Bermondsey, London, Edward Albert CARTWRIGHT married Georgina HENDERSON.  Both aged 24.  His occupation, Salesman, residing 44 Willow Walk, his father GEORGE CARTWRIGHT, Carpenter.  Georgina, a spinster, no occupation of 83 Willow Walk, states her father as Robert HENDERSON, Miner.
Witnesses are William George August & Maud Woolgar.

From the Certificate evidence, is it now possible to find any background on Georgina Henderson b.c.1899?
Why does Edward Albert or Albert Edward on his marriage cert. state GEORGE Cartwright as his father when his mother married ISAAC CARTWRIGHT?

I would really appreciate some more help with this family if at all possible.  Kind regards,  Sashar
PS - Please let me know if I can add anything further to help

[casalguidi]

Why does Edward Albert or Albert Edward on his marriage cert. state GEORGE Cartwright as his father when his mother married ISAAC CARTWRIGHT?

Well, given that there is no father named on Albert Edward's birth certificate, I don't think we can't be absolutely certain that his father was Isaac CARTWRIGHT can we?  Of course it may be a mistake and that it should read Isaac but there again perhaps his father was a George somebody or other

Casalguidi

[SASHAR]

Hi Casalguidi,
I don't think Isaac Cartwright is Albert Edward's real father but I know he was brought up in the Cartwright family.  There are rumblings in this family's future generations about Albert being completely left out of inheritances.  Albert's "sister" secretly gave him a Cartwright family heirloom which has been handed down through his line to today's generation.
So, did Albert find out that his real father was a George Cartwright and that is why it's stated on his marriage cert? Maybe Isaac Cartwright had died by the time Albert married and all was revealed by then?  It seems this line of research may remain unsolved.

From the Marriage Certificate evidence, is it now possible to find any background on Albert's wife Georgina Henderson b.c.1899, father Robert, occ Miner?  Will she be in the 1901 Census?

In appreciation, Sashar

[casalguidi]

If Albert's father wasn't Isaac CARTWRIGHT then he may well have been a George but not necessarily a CARTWRIGHT.  Albert would probably have used the name CARTWRIGHT for his father to perhaps save an embarassing situation (ie. he was illegitimate) and CARTWRIGHT was his own name.  Whether he knew who his actual father was or not

If you can get to the London Metropolitan Archives (I assume that is where the parish registers for that area are), it may be worth viewing the baptism registers for churches in the area to see if you can find a baptism for Albert and whether there is anything further noted there.  There may not be anything new on any baptism records but it is really a case of you don't know until you look

I saw one of your other posts re:  Georgina HENDERSON and did have a look but couldn't see anything conclusive in the 1901 census.

Casalguidi

[SASHAR]

Thankyou for your suggestions but I am in Australia and can only research over the net.   A baptism certificate would be lovely!
I thought by purchasing the marriage & birth certificate I may have found some new clues to help my research but it doesn't look that way.
I did see a Georgina Henderson on 1901 Census of England (I'm not a member so can't investigate further).  She was 1 yr old,  North R Castle Market/London/St Pancras.
Would that be a possibilty?
regards,  Sashar

[Biker]

Hi Sashar,

I just noticed your mention of Georgina Henderson and thought I'd give you the info to see if it fits.

1901 - 13 Camden Mews, Camden

George Ladill or Lidell (hard to read) widower 69 Cabman b. Norfolk Norwich
Harriett Henderson 34 widow Housekeeper b. St Johns Wood
Susan Henderson 5 dau b. Walworth S.E.
Georgina Henderson 18months? b. North ? Castle/Cattle Market (birthplace hard to read)

Regards
Biker

[SASHAR]

HI Biker,
Yes, that was the one I am interested in.
Just my luck, her mother is a widow, and a young widow!!
Is it possible to find a Harriett who married a Robert Henderson before 1901, maybe 1895ish.

My last hope, thanks for your help - Sashar

[SASHAR]

I've found a Harriet Sarah BALLS who married in the JuneQ 1896 a Robert HENDERSON at Newcastle T.
Now, on Georgina's death record, it says she was born 2.11.1898 Newcastle Upon Tyne but I think we previously couldn't positively ID a Georgina born at that place and that time.  Maybe it was being confused with her mothers marriage place and could be where Georgina grew up.
There is also a Robert HENDERSON's death, aged 34, MarchQ 1901 Newcastle upon Tyne, which is possibly Georgina's father.
I will have to check whether Walworth, Camden & Castle Market are anywhere near ea other or Newcastle T.
Back to the drawing board - Sashar

[Biker]

Sashar

Walworth is in south London, Camden is in north London.  Newcastle upton Tyne is in North England so a few hundred miles north.
Castle Market I have no idea, though it is just possible that the 1901 birthplace for Georgina it is a short form for North'land Castle Market ?  If so, as you've already found out I think there are a number of birth possibilities around the correct date in Morpeth/South Shields/Sunderland on FreeBMD.  Afriad my local geography of Northumberland is quite poor so cannot help on which one it might be.

Sorry don't think I can help very much further on this one.

Good luck
Biker