Views needed please

[heywood]

further to Sarah Ferneyhough

Free BMD has a marriage for Joseph Fernihough with a possibility - Sarah HALL June quarter 1847 vol 17 pg 75

this links with the matriarch Sarah Hall in 1851 but not sure where!

Reading over this again and your name interests - you do seem to already have the Hall connection as you are researching them. So I assume that the 'other' Sarah you mention and have the certificate for is the one here.

SO... was Ann Goddard - a Hall?
Where do you get Sarah Rogers from?

[Chelsea]

Hi Heywood,

I do have the information from 1851 ~ I will try and make my explanation of who they are simple!?!

They are all related to Ann Goddard - Sarah HALL is her mother and Hannah Mayer is her sister, the others living in the house are self explanatory.

The 2 Fernihough boys are the sons of Sarah Fernihough nee HALL (c.1824) & Joseph Fernihough.    Sarah HALL is the daughter of Mary Hall, which is another of Ann Goddard's sister!

In an earlier post in this thread, I make reference to this 'other' Sarah Fernihough because I keep getting this niggle in the back of my head that they are one and the same.

Having said that I have Sarah & Joseph's wedding cert which does not list a fathers name, only a mother ~ Mary HALL
And I also have the wedding cert of for Thomas Goddard & the other Sarah Fernihough which lists her father as Daniel Rogers!!

So...although I keep coming back to this little  'niggle' about the 2 Sarah Fernihough's....they must be 2 different people??

Just to recap on the 2 Sarah's in case I am missing something (or confusing you all!!):

Sarah 1:
c.1824
Mother is Mary Hall/no father listed
Married Joseph Fernihough in JUN 1847 & had 2 children - Andrew & Joseph
She is a widow in 1851 ~ I believe her husband died in 1850


Sarah 2:
c.1824
Fathers name is Daniel Rogers (info taken from marriage cert)
Married a Fernihough who I presume died - (unable to locate their marriage)
Married Thomas Goddard in 1854 ~  

[Chelsea]

Dont know if I am helping or confusing the issue furthetr (!) but there is a Mary Goddard born Jul/Aug/Sep 1858 in Leek area.

This could be either:
a) Emma registered under a different name but for some reason then went through life being called Emma
OR
b) another child of Thomas's second marriage, meaning Emma was not the youngest as you thought
OR
c) a complete red herring nothing to do with your famliy at all!!

Lizdb,

I have ordered and am awaiting the birth certificate for Mary! I don't hink she is to do with 'my' Goddards, but I do want to rule her out.

Cheers,

Chelsea 

[heywood]

To quote 'I've started so I'll finish' (or at least try to..

Free BMD has 1854 marriage for Thomas Goddard - none of the wives are a Sarah -
now I know that all have not been transcribed yet but are you sure that the certificate you have is your Thomas?

[heywood]

forget that - the wrong page was reported for Thomas on Free BMD - actual records show pg 290 - Free BMD has pg 291.
Back to the drawing board.

[heywood]

I still can't find Sarah Rogers in 1841 with the Goddards - can't find Hannah.

It is also confusing that Sarah Mayer and Sarah Fernihough are a similar age and presumably are cousins.

I have wondered again- could Sarah Fernihough nee Hall - with only a mother be the same person as Sarah Fernihough nee Rogers with a dad- Daniel - who never married mum?

[Chelsea]

I still can't find Sarah Rogers in 1841 with the Goddards - can't find Hannah.

It is also confusing that Sarah Mayer and Sarah Fernihough are a similar age and presumably are cousins.

I have wondered again- could Sarah Fernihough nee Hall - with only a mother be the same person as Sarah Fernihough nee Rogers with a dad- Daniel - who never married mum?

Heywood,

I am seriously coming to the conclusion that the 2 sarah's are the same! But I think that Sarah Rogers is in some way related to the Halls?!? No proof....just a feeling! Perhaps the daughter of another of Ann's sisters?

On the 1841 Hannah Mayer has been transcribed as "Mares"

Chelsea 

[heywood]

I agree with you and am now totally dizzy with failing eyesight!
Last thought- there is a Sarah Goddard death for September quarter 1858. Perhaps she died in childbirth (Emma or Mary?)
Perhaps baby was named Mary after Sarah's mother?
Perhaps siblings who raised her preferred Emma?

Who knows- but please let us know when you have it sorted!!
good luck
Kath

[gennig]

Hi Chelsea

On familysearch there are the following:-

Sarah Hall christened 7 Dec 1825 at Leek Mother Mary Hall, she died 7 may 1837. 
Sarah Hall christened 5 Dec 1826  Waterfall Staffordshire Mother: Mary Hall.

Also a Frederick ROGERS christened 26 Oct 1827 at Leek Parents: Daniel Rogers & Mary.

I wonder if a check of the Parish registers would prove helpful.

I tend to lean towards the 2 Sarah's being one, she may have always been known as Sarah Rogers but was legally Sarah Hall, if she was married at the same church where she was christened the Parish minister would have used her legal name. 
The fact that Sarah is given as Sarah Hall Snr's Granddaughter on the 1851 census, means her mother was a Hall.
I can see Andrew Fernihough as her son but not Joseph.  Joseph isn't on the 1851 census and his age of 11 on 1861 census means he should have been. 
But considering the different family members living with various other families, Joseph could be from another Fernihough family altogther.  Curiously the 2 boys seem to disappear after 1861.

regards

genni