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john roberts
« on: Monday 20 November 06 22:58 GMT (UK) »
any info that some one has on john roberts born about 1858 tryddyn flintshire would be greatly appreciated. in 1901 he was in coedpoeth but cant find him before that. mnay thanks
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi lubbie

I'm a dab hand at Roberts    ;)

1891 Bersham/Coedpoeth

RG12/4614 Folio 101 Page 50

John Roberts, 36, Coal miner, b. Flint Tryddyn
Barbara, 34, b. Shropshire ?
Mesheach, 6, b. Rhosddu, Den
Alice, 4, b. Coedpoeth
John Daniel, 2, b. Coedpoeth

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From memory, my tree contains 4 cousins, one uncle, one great uncle and a 3 x grt grandfather - and probably more - all called John Roberts  ;D
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:19 GMT (UK) »
In 1861, there are 4 possible John Roberts born Tryddyn in the 1855-60 period. Do you know his parents?

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PS there are also 2 possibles in the 1881
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes  in 1881 he is listed as a Stepson at the Home of a Joseph and Ruth Rogers Joseph being born in Leeswood Flintshire.But the giveaway is that his Mother Ruth is listed as born in Llanarmon Denbighshire,for in the 1861 Census he is living with his Mother Ruth Roberts listed as born in Llanarmon Denbighshire  aged 30 in Leeswood.Unfortunately Ruth is already a Widower.

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Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:31 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to state that in 1881,Joseph and Ruth Rogers and John Roberts are living in Stansty Wrexham.

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William Russell Jones
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Wrexham
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure that this is the right one William. There are 4 John Roberts of the approx age, born Tryddyn on the 1861.

I wouldn't like to choose any of them until we have more info about parents.

Gadget

NB - on the 1891 his birth looks circa 1855, on the 1901 it's circa 1858 - same bloke
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 November 06 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Well all else I can say is that John Roberts married a Barbara Ann Thomas at Wrexham in 1882.Barbara Ann was born in the Penley area in c 1858.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: john roberts
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Think it would be worth  getting the marriage cert then if lubbie hasn't got it. Do you have the reference for lubbie?

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Re: john roberts
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 00:07 GMT (UK) »
I only have the North Wales BMD reference;
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/cgi/match.cgi?date=1882&county=northwales&reference=C45%2f09%2f243&file=R&area=AA&pos=5566&prefix=AA:

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk