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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 December 06 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Joe.  This is very useful and I hadn't picked up on that before. I'm surprised I hadn't looked at 1851 before now, but I now remember my details came from typed records in the family history library on one of my visits back to the old country.  I had assumed Cecelia had died as I hadn't considered divorce as an option back then.  He must have been a bit of a lad, I think.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 December 06 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joe.  I'm not finding Alexander's 1851 census record through Scotland's People.  Looked for Helen also. I wonder why that would be.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 December 06 23:24 GMT (UK) »
hi sheena, did you use the soundex?

it was transcribed as alexr mckirdy

hope it helps

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 December 06 23:44 GMT (UK) »
hi sheena, i see by the 1861 census he is now with his 3rd wife

1861 census:

14 Cathcart Street

Alexander...age 54...Boatman & Porter
Elizabeth...age 38...born inverness
Andrew...age 15...ordinary seaman
James...age 2
Catherine Mc Gilvary...Niece...age 14

more stuff for you to ponder over!!

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 December 06 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Joe.  I've tried all computations in the 1851 census. He doesn't even appear when I just put in the surname and Greenock.  I tried Helen McKirdy and Helen Lamont - nothing.  Is a mystery.  I think I'll put the question to Scotland's People.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 December 06 02:19 GMT (UK) »
Joe.  It looks like Scotland's People is still working on the 1851 census.  That might explain why I can't find them.  I'll try again later.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 10 September 22 07:30 BST (UK) »
I'm embarrassed that I'm only getting back to this now.  My family tree has been on hold for some time.  However, I'm hoping that some of you who tried to help will have another look at it.  Alexander McKirdy, my gg grandfather was born 1807,d 1871 in Greenock.  His parents are shown as Alexander McKirdy and Mary McMillan on his birth notice and his death notice.  However, I've never found anything on his parents.  No marriage and no deaths.  I did find a birth in the Catholic Church to Alexander McCurdy and Mary McMullan which could be them as the names can be interchangeable when you have a large Irish population (or an Irish priest).  Alex was married twice -  to Helen Lamont and to Elizabeth McGilvray (my ancestor) (in the catholic church).  I had originally thought that Cecilia Black was a first marriage, but when I found her death record she was shown as "the widow of Alexander McKirdy" which rules her out as he had two later marriages  Would welcome any ideas from you creative thinkers out there.  Sheena
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 10 September 22 07:59 BST (UK) »
A brief revision:

1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1554f1f4040b9d6e68327b/alexr-mckirdy-1851-renfrewshire-greenock-1808-?locale=en

1861 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a155950f4040b9d6e6d0d28/alexander-mckirdy-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1807-?locale=en

1871 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5b91ad20f4040b176c959fe9/alexander-mckirdy-1871-renfrewshire-greenock-1811-?locale=en


Baptism record
MACKIRDY   ALEXANDER   parents: ALEXANDER MACKIRDY & MARY MCMILLAN FR779 (FR779)   M   26/07/1807   564/3    30 97   Greenock Old or West

I cannot see other baptisms to these parents
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: McMillan/McKirdy in Greenock
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 10 September 22 11:58 BST (UK) »
i presume that maybe Cecila got remarried?
I had assumed Cecelia had died as I hadn't considered divorce as an option back then.
It wasn't really an option as the expense involved put it out of reach of the majority of the population.

It is far more likely that Cecilia had died.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.