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Re: Balintore Cemetery - COMPLETED
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 07:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you for posting.  It's very interesting to see where the ship was wrecked.  You can certainly see how dangerous those sharp rocks would be.

Although Samuel is listed on the gravestone, I understand his body was never found.
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Re: Balintore Cemetery - COMPLETED
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 09:30 BST (UK) »
Local knowledge coming up.

Those sharp rocks are not where the Leon Raymundo was wrecked.

Do not confuse the Three Kings Rocks off the Sutors of Cromarty with the entirely separate Three Kings Rocks on the beach at Cullen.

The inquiry into the wreck found that the Leon Raymundo had been wrecked on 'the reef known as the King's Sons' ... of the parish of Nigg. See https://www.ainmean-aite.scot/three-kings-rock-creag-harail-mic-an-righ/ and https://uk.fishermap.org/depth-map/moray-firth-scot/ for a chart showing exactly where it is - off Port an Righ on the east coast of the parish. (You'll need to zoom in quite a lot to see it.)

The attached clipping is from the Highland News of 3 April 1897.

The Three Kings Rocks are too high on the beach at Cullen to have been the site of this wreck, quite apart from being nowhere near the Sutors of Cromarty. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=188485285

The Three Kings Rocks at Cullen are not listed in Canmore because Canmore records man-made features of the landscape and sea, and the Three Kings Rocks are entirely natural.

The Three Kings Rock or reef off Nigg is only mentioned on Canmore because it is the site of one or more wrecks. Note that the header of the listing categorises the item of interest as 'Schooner'. Not 'Rock'. Canmore's statement that the exact site cannot be determined refers to the exact position of the wreck of the Leon Raymundo, not to the position of the reef on which she was wrecked, which is clearly ascertainable from map evidence.
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Re: Balintore Cemetery - COMPLETED
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 12:13 BST (UK) »
Quote from: bearkat on Tuesday 12 September 23 07:57 BST (UK)
Although Samuel is listed on the gravestone, I understand his body was never found.

There are death certificates for both Samuel and his son. See screenshot.

Also, interestingly, one for what looks like a brother of Samuel.
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