Urmson - Ashton under Lyne?

[johnscotchpiper]

Has anyone come across this family? Definitely in Lancashire and probably Ashton under Lyne.

John Urmson born abt 1803
Esther Urmson (nee Travis) abt 1806
James E Urmson abt 1832
Hannah Urmson abt 1835
Abigail Urmson abt 1840.
They may also have had a daughter Mary born abt 1828.

They emigrated to the USA in 1841 and had two more children, John and Esther, there.

Thank you.

[dinkey]

Ancestry is showing the following Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s

John Urmson
Year    1841
Place    Ohio
Source Publication Code 9245 Page 7



Family search website has the following entry on US 1881 census
West Ward, Sharon, Mercer, Pennsylvania
Henry TAYLOR      Self      M  Male      43  ENG  Coalminer     
Abigal TAYLOR      Wife      M  Female 39  ENG   Keeps House     
John TAYLOR      Son      S  Male       18     PA  Laborer     
Frederick TAYLOR  Son     Male       16     OH  Laborer     
James TAYLOR      Son  S  Male    13     PA           
William TAYLOR  Son  S  Male       11      PA           
Etta TAYLOR  Dau  S  Female   9      PA           
Elisabeth TAYLOR  Dau     S  Female   7  PA           
Mary TAYLOR  Dau  S  Female   4  PA           
Anna TAYLOR  Dau  S  Female    2  PA        
Esther URMSON     MotherL   Female  73  ENG           

However, I am interested in Esther (nee Travis) born c 1807. This is one of my names, do you have any more information on her such as place of birth, parents, siblings etc.
regards

dinkey

[johnscotchpiper]

Thanks Dinkey.

I don't have much information on Esther Travis in England but I do have some in the USA.

I am trying to find the place(s) of the baptisms of her children in England.

Any help appreciated.

Best wishes,
johnscotchpiper

[velpremus]

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk has what is probably Abigails birth in Knott Lanes in 1840. Knott Lanes was a district at the top end of Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire which now comes under Tameside.
The IGI has a marriage on 18th October 1807 at St Michaels,  Ashton u Lyne  of Adam Urmson to an Abigail Ashton. Which may indicate that Abigail was the granddaughter if you believe in naming patterns. The IGI is incomplete but there are other births for Abigail and Adam as well as other Urmsons in Ashton.
At the time of the 1841 census there were 14 Urmsons still in Ashton

[johnscotchpiper]

Thanks valpremus.

I searched through the Ashton under Lyne baptismal parish records in Manchester recently and I could not find any trace of the family between about 1827 and 1842. Perhaps I will get a lead if I could find out where Abigail (born 1840) may have been baptised - assuming that she was baptised before the family emigrated. Can you give me some idea of churches near Knott Lanes which may have been used?

I will have to search for the baptisms elsewhere - I feel that they must be somewhere close to Ashton under Lyne.

Thanks again.

[Certificate Man]

Knott Lanes is more Oldham than Ashton.

It covered these areas. 

Alt [Lancs], Bardsley [Lancs], Crossbank [Lancs], Lees [Lancs].

[johnscotchpiper]

Thanks, Certificate Man,

As I have no knowledge of the area your reply does give me something to work on.

I appreciate that a baptism could have taken place anywhere but I have to begin the search with nearby areas and your reply helps to restrict possible searches. Perhaps the baptisms took place in Oldham itself.

Thanks again.

[Certificate Man]

If it were me, I should get the birth certificate.

It should give you a place of birth, more specific than Knott Lanes.  There weren' that many C of E's around here at that date. St John's Hurst wasn't built till 1848.

So I's guess that there would be St Michaels in Ashton, St Mary's in Oldham, and posssibly one in Bardsley.

Was he C of E ?

If it's any help a family headed by 50 year old Abigail Urmson was in District 7 of Knott Lanes in 1841 which is roughly Alt Hill & Park Bridge today.  To me that would suggest St Michaels being the usual church of Bardsley Church wasn't built.

1871 for this area is on my web pages about Hurst and District

http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/thehurstpages.htm

Good Luck

Antony

[velpremus]

The Ashton area also had many non conformist churches. At least 60% of my lot were members of those churches, Manchester Cathedral (or Manchester Collegiate up until 1847) also played its part.