Author Topic: My grandfathers medal card - Updated  (Read 1215 times)

Offline jackie walker

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
    • View Profile
My grandfathers medal card - Updated
« on: Thursday 07 December 06 22:56 GMT (UK) »
I have a download of my grandfathers medals, he was in the Lancashire fusiliers,  I know he was in the army when he married in December 1914, has him as private in 3rd Battelion, it has him down as army number 3513 and medal roll as Victory (looks like could be bar? at side) and British does anyone know what these two mean.

Thank you


Jackie

Offline Wendi

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,088
  • Peeking into the past
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 December 06 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackie

Is there a chance you can post his card for us to see/  It's always easier to comment when the card can be seen.

Thanks
Wendi  :)
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it,
unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

SCOTT ~ Monmouthshire & Glamorgan
BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
______________________________________
Census information posted here is Crown Copyright from The National Archives

Offline jackie walker

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 06 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendi

Thank you for your help, here goes failed first time to post medal card.

Kind regards

Jackie


Offline Rochdalian

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,231
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 06 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackie
The MIC tells you very little except that he received the Victory Medal and the British War Medal.  If he served overseas he did not go before 1st Jan 1916 otherwise he would have received the Star as well.  Those three medals were known as the 'trio' of service medals. The text next to the medal name indicates which medal roll and which page.  These rolls are available at the NA at Kew and not on line.  As there is no date written as to when he entered the theatre he may not have gone overseas.

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon


Offline themonsstar

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 679
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 06 01:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The 3rd Battalion LF was the Reserve Battalion, for the 1st Batt, a feeder. It was based at the dept in Bury, on the 8th Aug 1914 it moved to Hull, Nov 1916 to Withernsea where it remained in the Humber Garrison.

As the Army got bigger it then became a reserve Batt, for any of the Battalions of the LF.

The MIC you have posted gives the info of a soldiers with a 4 fig Army number joining up around Aug-Dec 1914, as he only as the British War Medal & Victroy Medal, hr did not go overseas until after 1st Jan 1916, to find out which Battalion you would have to look at the Medal Rolls at the NA at Kew, here is the file number you need WO329/973.

 Did he survive the war, & do you have any more info on him.

Bob you don't find dates on the MICs after 31 Dec 1915, unless he an Officer. & you had to go overseas to get the medals.

Offline Rochdalian

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,231
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 06 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. The knowledge bank grows day by day   ;)  Although I sometimes think that as I feed some new gem in something drops out the back.

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

Offline jackie walker

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 623
    • View Profile
Re: My grandfathers medal card - updated
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 06 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob and themonsstar

Thank you both very much for the info, I will note the reference and watch for anyone going to Kew that may be able to look up for me.

My grandfather did survive the war, I know very little about him as he left his family in 1936 when my father was young, trying at the moment to find his death but he used different names, he was Isaac. but also used George Thomas Issac and George, waiting to hear from Traceline to see if they managed to find where he went.

Update - spoken to my cousin and he has sent me from Lancs Fus roll of individuals entitled to Victory medal and or british war medal - 3513 Pte Phillips George 2nd Lancs Fus at the side of that written under theatres of war looks like ODE, would the records at NA at Kew show any more info than this.

Kind Regards


Jackie