Greenhalgh in Breightmet

[colinsorigins]

I am searching for the immediate ancestors of Phoebe Greenhalgh who was born in Breightmet in 1868.   In particular I am looking for the baptism and marriage of each of her father John born about 1826 and her grandfather Edward born 1796;  they were both born in Breightmet.

I am new to researching in the Bolton area and my immediate problem is that there does not seem to have been a church in Breightmet at the time frame in which I am looking, and I have no idea which church people from Breightmet would have gone to for baptisms and marriages.

I would be grateful for either information on Phoebe and her relatives, or on which parish register I might find their baptisms and marriages.

Many thanks

Colin

[Certificate Man]

I tries to find Phoebe in 1871 to determine her mother's name because John Greenhalgh must be one of the most popular names in Bolton.

As  I had no luck, I suggest that you get her birth certificate; this seems a sgood bet

Births Jun 1867
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Greenhalgh  Phoebe    Bolton  8c 274

It will give you her father and mother's maiden name making the marriage much easier to find.

Good Luck 

Antony

http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/thehurstpages.htm

[colinsorigins]

Thanks for that Antony.

You could be right and I shall have to find Phoebe's parents through birth and marriage certificates.   I know from the 1881 that her mother was Alice who also was born in Breightmet.

I would prefer to find them through a parish register because this would give the potential to identify many more of the family members.   There seems to be a good chance that the particular register will be available on film from LDS, and I do go to the local LDS Family History Centre every week;  it would be much easier if I knew which register to start with.

I was sorry to read your comment about the popularity of the John Greenhalpgh name in Bolton, I am next looking for Phoebe's husband who was John Lowe "born in Manchester"!!!

Thanks for your help

Colin

[Certificate Man]

If Alice is the mother of Phoebe as you assumr from the 1881 census; she would seem to be the mother of Albert too.  Albert was aged 6 in 1881.

Alice was 53. This suggests she was 47 when he was born.

Impossible ? no, realistic, ?

Might she be a second wife ?

There are six John Greenhalgh entries on Free B M D who might have married an Alice between 1871 and 1871. There are another three between 1851 & 1861 ( if we assum that Alice is the mother of all of children on the 1881 census

If you really want to go via a Church Register, I'd joint the Rootsweb Bolton list where Valerie and a colleague go to Bolton Library almost every day.

I still couldn't find them in 1871 even knowing both parents and the kids, but this might be them in 1861

Alice Greenhalgh 34 
Ann Greenhalgh 2 
David Greenhalgh 11 
Frederick H Greenhalgh 7 Mo 
John Greenhalgh 34 
John Greenhalgh 2 

But there's a big age gap between David & the two year olds so the second wife syndrome might b etheer again.

The Parish Church for Breightmet is St James I think.


Good Luck


Antony

http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/thehurstpages.htm

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Just to confuse things,

On the 1871 the family appear to be called Partington!!  Living in Breightmet

Alice Partington 41 
Alice Partington 6 
Ann Partington 19 
David Partington 21 
Emma Partington 8 
John Partington 45 
John Partington 14 
Mary E Partington 2 
Pheba (as transcribed) Partington 4 

Regards,
Mo

[colinsorigins]

Brilliant work Mo.   Although it is not unusual to find complete families missing from a census, it is certainly reassuring to fill this gap in the history of this family.

Although there are discrepancies in some of the ages, I have no doubt this is my [wife's] Greenhalgh family.   We can but speculate why the enumerator wrote Partington, but, considering the millions of entries, the occasional mistake is not surprising.

Many thanks

Colin