Born Ireland ... but how do I find out where?

[Matty]

I have two different names with "born Ireland" but I have no clues as to where!

Patrick Mc Dermott .. Born Ireland possibly about 1807 (died in 1883 aged 74 in Lancashire)

Mary Magrath .. born Ireland . about 1816 

any body got any ideas of where I start ?

Thank you Matty

[tootsiepie]

Hi Matty, I see 3 possible births in the I.G.I. in Liverpool for this couple, are they yours?   ( The parent search was Patrick(i) McDermott and Mary Mcgra ).   If so , it means they were probably in England for the 1841 census.  So....... were there any older children in the census, and do you know if the parents married in Ireland or England?

Were they staying with anyone else in the 1841 census?

[Matty]

Hi tootsiepie,

Thanks for doing a search for me it was very good of you.

I do have the family one several census's 1841 in Liverpool... Prescott  with 3 children the eldest aged 7 born Ireland .. THE OTHER BORN Lancashire

1851 Halifax Yorks

They had 7 children .. the eldest two down as born in Ireland ( one was missing in 41)

Later they moved back to Lancashire.

I found and received the birth certificate of my relative Mary Mc Dermott she was born in Leeds and that gave me the surname of her Mother.

So from this I am presuming the Parents married in Ireland

 Matty

[tootsiepie]

hi Mattie, You've probably done this already, but after tracing the parents through every possible census until they died, for a possible place of birth,   try tracing both Irish born children right up to the 1901 census if possible.

On the 1841 census, were there any other McDermotts or McGrath/Graw   on the same page?  Even the same street (maybe have to get the census film from the L.D.S. for that).

Reason I'm asking is that families often left Ireland to go to places, and settle initially, beside other relatives or neighbours from their own district in Ireland.

Possibly try to access any christening records for English born children, especially the earlier ones, with a chance of other families names surfacing as sponsors.  Then off to find them on  '51 census and later.

The Lancashire board might be more helpful with the last idea if you know the religious denomination.

[Matty]

Hi tootsiepie,

Thank you again for that very good advice, I have got several census's on the family but had not thought to look "next door"  and of course it's only the other day that I received the birth certificate of my 2xGreatGrandmother and then found the maiden name of her Mother Magrath  .. so now I can look for that.

Also I seem to remember when I was a child my Mother saying they (McDermotts) were Catholics.. again not easy to find records. 

Regards Matty

[tootsiepie]

hi Matty, Good luck in your search, you may just find a little clue somewhere   I know it's not easy, I've found some of my Irish, but one or two are determined not to tell me the county they came from    

I've got a lot from Donegal,  are your McNutts from a little place called Glentidaly?    Only a possible connection for me, but I just thought I would mention it.  You  never know

[Matty]

Hi tootsdiepie,

Thanks for all you help, I have asked on both the Lancashire (1841) & Yorkshire (1851) for infor on McDermotts/Magraths but nothing has come up .. I have no information on my McDermotts for 1861 ... they moved about but were back in Lancashire in 71 onwards.

Our McNutts came from Dunfanaghy in Donegal I have certificates from the Prestbyterian Church there also family stories handed down ... but would be interested to heare of any information on mcnutt's from Glentidy if you don't mind. 

I have a William McNutt married to Catherine Culbert, also their son Andrew I do not have his birth, he married Susan Richardson .. I have their marriage.

Regards Matty

[Wendi]

Hi Matty

An age ago Mobo started a topic about Irish Ancestry, it runs to 17 pages now but she has some good addresses and advice 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/010z/

Wendi 

[Matty]

Hi Wendy,

Thanks for the link to Mobo's topic, I have had a brief look but I will settle down and look through it carefully I could find some useful links in there.

Regards MATTY