Census request 1901 Lancashire

[Jimmy]

Hi there.
I am trying to find my maternal grandparents Hitchen, who lived in Pemberton.  Don't know their Christian names, but in 1901 they had sons Johnson (age 7), Fred and William, and daughters Elizabeth and Mary (I think).  I would like to know teir Christian names and street address please.

Jimmy

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Jimmy

I am trying to find my maternal grandparents Hitchen, who lived in Pemberton.  Don't know their Christian names, but in 1901 they had sons Johnson (age 7), Fred and William, and daughters Elizabeth and Mary (I think).  I would like to know teir Christian names and street address please.

Have looked on the 1891 census on-line and there are 97 people with the surname Hitchin in Lancashire but ....
Not one single person of those 97 are shown as either being born in Pemberton or living in Pemberton

Was Johnson the eldest child? – Do you have any more info on the family?
If Johnson was the eldest in 1901, then his parents possibly had not met each other yet.

What other information did the 1901 census give you.

Chris in 1066Land

[PaulineJ]

One for You to follow up Chris, and remember its HitchEN.

    Johnson (7 in 1901) would seem to be the eldest child, associated with John age 38 (Labourer in Coal mine) in 1901, and Sarah aged 29.

There is another Johnson  age 16/17 in 1901 too. Age diff. of John & Sarah suggests a second marriage?

Pauline

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there Pauline

"One for You to follow up Chris, and remember its HitchEN"

If you are just tracing one spelling variation of the Hitchin/en family , then you are going to miss an awfull lot of Ancestors.

Remember, most of our ancestors could not read or write - so if when they got married, were baptized or filled in census returns - it was spelt how that person who was writing the information down actually heard it.

If the name sounds the same when you speak it, then more than likely it is the same.

Will now recheck the 1891 census for you

Chris in 1066land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Jimmy

There is another Johnson  age 16/17 in 1901 too. Age diff. of John & Sarah suggests a second marriage?

Just to rule him in or out - Here is the full transcription:

RG12/ 3065/ Folio 27/ Page 8 – 56 Moss Terrace, Pemberton, Lancs.

HITCHEN Nicholas, Head, Marr, 40, born Pemberton, Lancs
               Jane, Wife, Marr, 38, born Pemberton
               Johnson, Son, Unm, 7, born Pemberton
               Nicholas, Son, Unm, 5, born Pemberton
               Ralp, Son, Unm, 1, born Pemberton

Chris in 1066Land

[Chris in 1066Land]

Jimmy

"Have looked on the 1891 census on-line and there are 97 people with the surname Hitchin in Lancashire but, not one single person of those 97 are shown as either being born in Pemberton or living in Pemberton"

but on a second look, there are 76 Hitchens in Pemberton (yes, point taken)

This one looks very promising:

RG12/ 3065/ Folio 12/ Page 17 – Number 733 …… Road, Pemberton, Lancs. (sorry, can't make out the Road Name)
 
HITCHEN John, Head, Marr, 34, Coal Miner, born Pemberton
               Mary A, Wife, Marr, 31, Dudley, Worcestershire
               Daniel, Son, Unm, 14, (……..)born Pemberton – (again cant make it out)
               Mary A, Dau, Unm, 12, Scholar, born Pemberton
               John, Son, Unm, 10, Scholar, born Pemberton
               Peter, Son, Unm, 9, Scholar, born Pemberton
               Elizabeth, Dau, Unm, 8, Scholar, born Pemberton
               Ellen, Dau, Unm, 7, Scholar, born Pemberton
               Jessie, Dau, Unm, 3, born Pemberton
               

Chris in 1066Land.

[Jimmy]

Hi Jimmy

I am trying to find my maternal grandparents Hitchen, who lived in Pemberton.  Don't know their Christian names, but in 1901 they had sons Johnson (age 7), Fred and William, and daughters Elizabeth and Mary (I think).  I would like to know teir Christian names and street address please.

Have looked on the 1891 census on-line and there are 97 people with the surname Hitchin in Lancashire but ....
Not one single person of those 97 are shown as either being born in Pemberton or living in Pemberton

Was Johnson the eldest child? – Do you have any more info on the family?
If Johnson was the eldest in 1901, then his parents possibly had not met each other yet.

What other information did the 1901 census give you.

Chris in 1066Land

Thanks Chris.  Johnson was the eldest, and my guess is his parents married in about 1892/3.  

I have not looked at the 1901 census - other than the PRO index - but of course I can access the full details even from here (New Zealand), but I am very new at this game and have put off investing much money until I know better what I am doing.

Other info: there were two more children (who lived), Ellen, born in 1905 (my mother) and Joseph, probably born 1902/3, but not sure.

I have looked thoroughly through the 1891 census, but cannot positively identify who they might be.  Pauline seems to have some idea worth persuing.

I am 99.9% confident of the spelling Hitchen.

Thanks again........Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

One for You to follow up Chris, and remember its HitchEN.

    Johnson (7 in 1901) would seem to be the eldest child, associated with John age 38 (Labourer in Coal mine) in 1901, and Sarah aged 29.

There is another Johnson  age 16/17 in 1901 too. Age diff. of John & Sarah suggests a second marriage?

Pauline



Thanks Pauline, this looks very promising.  I had both John and Sarah on my (very long) list of possibilities.  How did you work out this connection?  The only way I can see to provide certainty of identity is to consult the 1901 census
for the family I described.

I know maternal grandmother was still alive in 1933, and died sometime between '33 and '38, but I have still not yet been able to identify her from the PRO deaths index.  He died earlier, but I don' yet know when.

They are still a bit mysterious (to me), but perhaps not so mysterious as my paternal great-great and great-great-great grandfathers, who seem to appear out of nowhere, the go back again, leaving no record of departure, but that is another story I may be looking for help over soon.

Thanks again......Jimmy.