Missing in 1871 census

[JayneA]

Hi,

I am having trouble locating my family in the 1871 census, I have details of all the other years and wondered if anyone had any ideas?

JOHN NICKSON married SARAH ANN in LIVERPOOL they had several children and SARAH was born in CHELTENHAM 1840, JOHN BORN OVERTON CHESHIRE 1841

I need details of the 1871 to discover any more children and cannot for the life of me find them. Can anyone help please?

Regards

Jayne

[skb]

Could you let us have any other information which would help us to identify them?

eg John's occupation

Do you know when they married? Was it definitely before 1871?

And do you have any information prior to 1871?

[Gragareth]

May be surname spelling is incorrect in the 71CR ?   Mickson ?  Nixon ?.....

Gragareth.

[JayneA]

Hi,
 
Thanks for replying, His job was a labourer, they would have been married in 71, as I have found them 10yrs later and they have 3 children and the oldest is 15yrs old. (Josiah, Thomas J & William)

I found John in the 1861, when he was a lodger and unmarried, and the only one closet in the 1871, has John living in a Poor house, but they have the occupation as plumber, but there is no sign anywhere of Sarah Ann or the children, I have even looked in the welsh census thinking that maybe they went there for a while. It is a real mystery.

Thanks once again

Jayne

[skb]

Some people just don't want to be found do they

I've had no luck so far on the 1871.

Perhaps you have this information already, but I did spot these on freebmd

Josiah Garibaldi Nickson born Birkenhead 4th quarter 1862
Josiah Garibaldi Nickson died Birkenhead 4th quarter 1863
Josiah George Nickson born Birkenhead 3rd quarter 1865

and a possible marriage
John Nickson 3rd quarter 1862 Liverpool with possible spouse Sarah Ann Brooks

[JayneA]

Hi SKB,

Thanks for looking for me, I saw Josiah G (both of them), but I think he is Josiah E, as in the 1901, I have him living with John and Sarah and his children (I think Josiahs' wife must have died) in 19 wolfe Street, the children are down as grand daughters.

Maybe there are a lot of gaps on the 1871 census, as I was trying for another relative on my Dad's side last night and had the same trouble??

It is definately a puzzle, however, you have found their Marriage for me so I thank you for doing that.

Happy New Year.

Jayne

[DS]

I think he is Josiah E, as in the 1901

Hello Jayne

It is very easy to read the name as Josiah E when looked at in isolation on the original 1901 census document (RG13/3427 Folio 101 Page 21), especially when the transcriber has already done so and "planted the seed".

However, on closer inspection and comparison with other instances of the letter “E” on the page (for instance in “Elizabeth” a few lines down from Josiah) it can be seen that the enumerator has a definite style for producing a capital “E” which is distinctly different from the hieroglyph (or squiggle) in the middle of Josiah’s name. There are several other names on the page beginning with a capital “E” and they all have the same characteristics.

On the next line down from Josiah the way that the enumerator has written “Grand Daur” illustrates, albeit slightly smudged, the formation of a capital “G” as does the annotation “Glouc“ over to the right for Sarah.

I think that he is almost certainly Josiah G and the birth reference found by skb is probably correct.

It is only a “little acorn” but it might prevent the wrong “mighty tree” from developing.

Have another look and see what you think.

All the best

DS

[JayneA]

Thank you DS,

I have relooked at it and you are right, I think I thought it was an E because my uncle is called Eric Josiah and I figured they have swapped their names about.

So now all I have to do is think  whether it's Josiah Garibaldi (reminds me of biscuits) or Josiah George.

It's always good to get someone elses opinion.

Thank you

Jayne

[DS]

Thanks Jayne

I think it is Josiah George since the Josiah Garibaldi, sadly, died within a year of his birth.

Best wishes

DS