Mary Gordon from Marnoch

[runningbear]

we know that mary c1854 is staying with her granny on the 1861 census, looking for the other mary throws up this

1861 census; loanhead, king edward

mary...servant...age 23...domestic servant...born..not known!!!!

looks like she is on a farm

just to keep me happy there is a charles hunter working on a farm in leochel cushnie, aged 34, employed as a ploughman

sorry susan

Joe

[MonicaL]

I think that 1861 Census entry is likely to be the Mary b. 1838. Just thinking through what we have to date.

If George Cooper Snr. died shortly after son George was born in 1834, it could be that Margaret went on to have another child with someone else (or took in someone else's child - might explain why she didn't know where she was born but she was a Gordon). George and Mary are both out of the household in 1851 where Margaret shows living alone and George working in a farm.

Mary falls pregnant and continues to work following the birth of her child Mary c.1854. The child Mary is taken care of by 'grandmother' Margaret Robertson Cooper as showing in the 1861 Census.

Joe, I agree that father to this Mary is not George (too neat!). The names of John b. 1874 would make you think that someone else was father. However, not knowing anything about the Mary b. 1838 and who her parents were........hard to say anything about the additional names for John.

I do at least think we may have found John's grandmother. Pity we have all these potential illigitimate births getting in the way 

Monica

[susanhs]

Wasn't it a John Cooper not a George Cooper that married Margaret Robertson in 1831? Then they had a son George b. 1834.

The 'grandmother' (Margaret Robertson Cooper) dies in 1866. Mary Gordon (b.c1854) was only 12.  Where did she go??  Perhaps she joined her mother at this point?

Finding the 2 Mary Gordons (b. 1838, b. 1854) in 1871 might help.

[runningbear]

i agre with you my friend, i think it is time to close on this one, seems there is not a lot more anyone can do to help.

even birth certs would not help

wishing you well susan and have a warm and comforting new year, sorry i could do no more to help

thanks monica and gaget for all your help on this thread, great to know when i need help, that yous are not far away.

Joe

[mitchell]

Hi All,

I think I've found Mary Gordon in the 1871 Census in St Nicholas, Aberdeen GROS Data 168/01 016/01 016

The entry is not very clear but Mary is living with a Paterson family at 17 Upperkirkgate, St Nicholas. Aged 18, Domestic Servant born Marnoch.

George Paterson Head Marr 56 ?Labourer? Born Forgue
Mary Paterson Wife Marr 51 Born Insch
James Son Unmarr 23 Blacksmith Born Forgue
William Son Unmarr 20 Pastry Cook Born ?Culsalmond?
?Jean? Daugh Unmarr 13 Scholar Born Insch
Maggie Ann Daugh 11 Born Insch
Charlotte Daugh 6 Born Old Machar
James Cadenhead Grandson 8 months Born St Nicholas
Mary Gordon Serv. Unmarr 18 Domestic Servant Born Marnoch
Alexander Smith Lodger Unmarr 24 Mason Born Banchory
George Reid Lodger Unmarr 22 Mason Born Deskford, Banffshire
 

Elaine

[runningbear]

looks good to me elaine, have you noticed that john has paterson in his name?

once again well done

joe

[mitchell]

Yes Joe, that's what makes me think it's probably her.

I had looked up the IGI to see where John was born and that was in St Nicholas, 3 years later.

Elaine

[MonicaL]

I'm tripping up....it should be John not George Snr. husband to Margaret Robertson.

Monica

[susanhs]

Hi Elaine,

Very interesting!!!!  From  all the records I have seen  John Charles Hunter Gordon was the name listed.  Then when John's son William is born he is writing his name as John Charles Hunter Paterson Gordon and names his son William Paterson Gordon.  No signs of any Patersons anywhere.  No Charles Hunters either though!!!

Perhaps George Paterson's son William Paterson was the father, hence the grandson William Paterson Gordon.!!!

Is Mary Gordon with this Patterson family in 1881 too??

Thank you very much!

Susan