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Cave house, Chirnside/New St;Newton St/Newtown St.
« on: Thursday 28 December 06 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Yesterday I was told that there was a cave house, possibly at Chirnside Bridge, near the paper mill. It seems that it was built into the hillside but is no longer there.
Does anyone have any knowledge of this house or have a copy of a Chirnside census which shows it?
Would be grateful for any information.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 December 06 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rae,

In the 1851 census of Chirnside, there is a Rock House after the Toll House, occupants at that time were:

Henry Kerr  H  M  73  retired Ag. Lab.    Berwick, Edrom.
Janet Kerr  W  M 76    England.
William Kerr  S  U  41 Lab.  Berwick, Chirnside.
Phillis Kerr  D  U  Worker at the Paper Manufactory  Berwick, Duns.

Is this what you were looking for?

Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 December 06 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much for looking it up, Beckey.
Rock House looks possible as several ancestors worked at the paper mill there. Some other relatives remember going to look for it but seem unsure which family of ancestors lived there. It would be after the 1881 census.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 July 10 11:01 BST (UK) »
HI  my family CRAWFORD /RAE  lived in the chirnside bridge house around 1945 ,my gr ganmother and gr gran father RAE are buried there ,do you think we might be related?email (*) ,my family lefted in1949 for australia ,thomas victor CRAWFORD WIFE EDITH AND THERE 4 CHILDREN ,aunty charolotte and uncle alexander LEARMONTH .also isabella CRAWFORD ,please drop me a email ive got more info about the family xx

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 July 10 01:42 BST (UK) »
Hello Suzzie,
I don't have any information about your ancestors but there was quite a community around Chirnside Bridge. It was next to the Paper mill so did your family have links with that?
I do have Rae ancestors but they were from Coldingham.
However there may be others on Rootschat who may have links to your family.
Do you know anything about Thomas Crawford's parents? .........
was Edith's surname Rae?
Perhaps you would be better starting an new topic for Crawfords or Rae families around the Chirnside area.
I can try to help you if you have earlier information.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 July 10 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Excel,

I assume you got the 1861 census for Rock House.,
 Henry Kerr W H 83 Ret.Ag.Lab.  Edrom.
Phillis           U  D  47 Paper Mill Worker     Duns.
Mary Rodgers  M  D  44  Gardener's Wife  Chirnside.
Elizabeth Rogers  G/D  8  Scholar              Duns.

Henry Kerr d. 15.1.1862 84 yrs. his wife Janet Henderson d. 23.2.57 83 yrs.
Son William d. 18.5.1851 42 yrs. Phillis d. 23.3.1875 62 yrs.

There are 2 Crawfords in Chirnside in 1861,  Thomas Crawford H  U  34  Ag.Lab.  Sprouston. Jane Crawford  Niece  U  13  Paper Mill Worker  Dunbar.
Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 July 10 18:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Beckie. My ancestors lived there some time later than 1861 and that is not their address in any census. I think it was one of those family stories that has been handed down.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 August 10 21:10 BST (UK) »
Hiya

Have a look at the Dunse History Societys website - they have a collection of old photographs, in the surrounding villages folder, one of which is the Rock House.

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Re: Cave house, Chirnside
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 August 10 19:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for that link, ep. Even if the Rock House hadn't been in it there are some great old photos.
Rae
All UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cline: Ireland and Berwick on Twieed
Collin: Eyemouth
Clyne: Ireland, Berwickshire, Northumberland
Barns, Barnes: Fife
Walker: Edinburgh & Stirling
Laing, Wilson, Forrest, Forrester, Colven, Rae, Cowe, Buglass, Johnson, Wilson, Thorburn, Darling, Broomfield, : Berwickshire
McRaw, Cameron, Taylor, Gould/Guild, McIntyre, Maxton, McDonald, Douglass : Perthshire
Cormack, Campbell, Sutherland, Doull: Caithness