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"Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« on: Tuesday 02 January 07 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Acording to Google Book search (which provided only a snippet view) of A Naval History of England - Page 404 by Geoffrey Jules Marcus - 1961

There was a smuggler in Hastings known as "Black Jack" Wenham.  Anyone know who this refers to?

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Re: "Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 17:59 GMT (UK) »


Hi  Laverdiere !

As always - I've gone off on a tangent ....... thought you might enjoy this site ( good for background !!  ;) ) .... even though I don't think Black Jack is on there !!  :D

http://www.smuggling.co.uk/famous.html

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 18:03 GMT (UK) »



  Capt James Wenham of Hastings was given a letter of marque authorising him to attack other vessels during the years 1778-1790's when England was at war with France Spain Holland and the Americas.
 They alllowed him to be a privateer and to take the ships cargos.
 The Wenham family became very rich at this time.

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Re: "Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 18:10 GMT (UK) »
I did find this ! .... ( I have to admit .... only after Tazzie said his real name !!  :D )
 
Between 1778 and the 1790s when the UK was at war with France, Spain, Holland, and the American Colonies, privateering became legitimate again and Hastings captains such as James Wenham were given letters of marque authorising them to attack enemy ships and take their cargoes. The Wenham family prospered during this period.
The Hastings fleet was also much involved with smuggling - tea, tobacco, wines, spirits, silks, linens came in, and when export duties were imposed, wool and leather were smuggled out.

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EDIT .... just realised Tazzie .... you said exactly the same thing ....... sorry !!  :-X
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Re: "Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie and Annie, thank you for your replies.

Captain James Wenham was one of my 6th great-grandfather.  So I guess he was known in the smuggling world as "Black Jack"!? 

The little information I have comes from Marian Marshall's book "Hastings Saga" but I am interested in finding some primary sources somewhere--like the marque document Tazzie referred to.

GoogleBook also had a snippet (from Statesmen at War: The Strategy of Overthrow, 1798-1799 By Piers Mackesy page 169) that went something like this:

"Popham had suggested sending for a Mr. Wenham of Hastings to fetch pilots from Holland: ‘he is the head of these gentlemen of the gin keg and he will get over the pilots directly.’ "

Though it doesn't say which Wenham--James' brother William and some other Wenhams were also smugglers.

Laverdiere

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Re: "Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 19:58 GMT (UK) »
I wish I had interesting ancestors!
I wonder if they left wills?   They might have a lot of information in.   Have you tried the A2A site to see if the record offices have any documents?  I had a quick look - too many hits to look properly but certainly a mention of Wenham and smuggling in some settlement removal orders.
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Re: "Black Jack" Wenham of Hastings
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrea, thanks for your reply.  Some of them did leave wills so I'm going to order the appropriate microfilms and have a look-see.

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