1871 Look Ups Please

[jackiedillimore]

Could anyone please help me with a couple of look ups in the 1871 census? I am looking for:

Matthew Horner B 1822 South Walsham / Burlingham
Sarah B 1829 Hemblington

Also

Charles Horner B 1831 South Walsham
Eliza B 1839 Woodbastwick

Any help would be very much appreciated

Kindest Regards
Jackie

[ELLinSpain]

Hello

do you have occupations for these guys to help pinpont + were there any children?

[jackiedillimore]

Hi Ell,

Matthew was an agricultural Labourer the children i know of are Charlotte B 1851 and John B 1853 both born in South Walsham.

In 1861 they were living in Burlingham Road, Hemblington.

Charles was also an Agricultural Labourer. He married Eliza in 1856 and the only child i have is Charles B 1858 in Hemblington. I hav'nt got the 1861 census for him so i dont know where he was at that time.

Sometimes the name is transcribed as Harmer?? Dont know if this helps

Thanks for all your help
Kindest Regards
Jackie

[ELLinSpain]

me again

I have looked thro the 1871 & 81 census & I think that the freeBMD's give a bit of a clue here:

Birth - Charlotte - Blofield Mar 1851 - 13/20

Marriage - Matthew to Sarah Blayes - Norwich Jun 1848 - 13/451

Death - Eliza - Blofield Sept 1851 - 13/11

Death Charles (age 37) - Norwich Jun 1848 - 13/451

Death - John (aged 18) - Blofield Jun 1870 - 4b/131

next stage, ignoring the surname altogether (found also Hornor & Homer & Homar), in 1871 there is only one Sarah born c 1822 Hemblington and her surname is Snowley & her family are registered under that so cannot be her - tried the same with John & Matthew & nothing - done the same for 1881 & zilch so, I think that young John dies (as above) & Matthew (although I cannot find a death registered, but thats not unusual)

On the 1861 census, there is a Charles showing born c 1831  (if Eliza died earlier this would make sense) +, there is a Charles born c1857 Blofield shown as a son to a John & Sarah Horner who, could be looking after him/lived with them if the Eliza death is correct & they would not necessarily have put him down as adopted etc.

Supposition thus far on my part but worth digging into more

[jackiedillimore]

Hi Ell,

Thank you for all your help it is very much appreciated. I think the birth of Charlotte 1851, marriage of Mattew & sarah in 1848 and the death of John 1870 are all correct.
However Charles did'nt marry Eliza untill 1856 so the death of Eliza cant be the right one. Also i have found Charles death in 1867 aged 37. I think you are right with Eliza having died but its somewhere between 1856 & 1861.

I would be very interested in the full details that you mention of the Charles you have found in 1861 born 1831 and also the other Charles B 1857 Blofield living with John & Sarah Horner  ( Charles does have a brother John ) this is a very good possibility, THank YOU!!!

Regarding Matthew i have been digging around looking for him as he seemed to disappear off the face of the earth. But i did a random search in the 1881 and there is a Matthiew Horner B 1822 in America living with an Elizabeth so i wonder whether his wife Sarah died as well as his children in which case he might have felt he had to get away?

Kindest Regards
Jackie

[robsontom]

Alice ( Middle name May) Horner was my Gt Grandmother.  she married Albert Taylor wright.  At some point they returned to the village as my grandfather went to school there