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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 November 16 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

Thank you.  I did not have all of these baptisms.  The following are the ones I had, sent to me by another researcher so not verified.

Baptisms, Eastwood
William, son of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, April 2nd, 1826
Eliza, daur of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, March 22nd 1835
Emma, daur of Thomas and Sarah Cockley, abode Eastwood, labourer, June 4th 1837

I had questioned the birthplace of John as it didn't match those that I had, being Barling instead of Eastwood.  Does it state the parents on the source that you have?  You did say, "same parents', so I assume so.  There was another John Cockley born around the same time and I had begun to question whether the information I had for John Cockley's marriage and children was correct.  The birthplace of Barling would prove that it was.

I also have the following baptisms and burials:
Baptisms, Eastwood - possibly children of John, bap 1823, and Mary Ann Anstee.
John, son of Mary and John Cockley, labourer, January 4th 1855
William Thomas, son of Mary and John Cockley, labourer, October 7th 1855

Burials, Eastwood
Thomas Cockley, Eastwood, September 10th 1826, aged 7.
William Cockley, Eastwood, July 2nd 1827 aged 15 months
Mary Cockley, Eastwood, March 2nd 1828 aged 3 months
Thomas Cockley, aged 62, March 9th 1855
William Thomas Cockley, aged 2, September 1st 1857

Henry Cockley (1833) married Charlotte Kemp on 5th Oct 1867 in Rochford.  Charlotte had two illegitimate children, Eliza, born c 1854, for whom I cannot find the birth as yet, and Frederick Walter, as follows:

Essex Records Office, August 2014
Rochford Baptisms St. Andrew

October 28th 1855
Image 30 Page 33 Entry 419
Frederick Walter, son of Charlotte Kemp, Rochford, single woman, servant

Henry and Charlotte had one daughter, Catherine Jane, born 4th Dec 1870 in Rochford.  Catherine Jane married 1.Fred Brazier, born 11 Apr 1870 in Basildon, son of Joseph Walter Brazier and Jane Aves. 2. Frederick Thurley, born 28th Nov 1866 in Beauchamp Roding to James Thurley and Mary Ann Stone.

Thank you for your reply.  I am more than willing to share any information that I have.  I don't live in the UK so don't have ready access to the records.  I did visit the Essex Records Office a few years ago and found it to be a goldmine of sourced information:)

Achra



Ayrshire: Micklemun, McMun, Munn, Richmond, Wilson
Clackmannan: Cairns, Scobie
Dunbartonshire: Munn, Stewart
Fife: Anderson, Cairns
Kinross: Cairns, Stevenson
Lanarkshire: Baillie, Carswell, Downs, Inglis, Thomson
Perthshire: Buchanan, Cairns, McDonald, McGibbon, McGowan, McLaren, McNaughton, Murray, Stewart, Stevenson
Ross & Cromarty: Bizzet, Johnstone, McLennan, Ross
Essex: Aves, Brazier, Cockley, Kemp, Simpson
Middlesex: Cartwright, Simpson, Ward
Norfolk: Howard, Simpson
Nottingham: Simpson

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 November 16 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Morning

Most of my information has come from the Essex Records Office online service https://secureweb1.essexcc.gov.uk/SeaxPAM/subscriptionservice.aspx which is a subscription service but has most of Essex parish records going back to the 1500s.

I can confirm the early Eastwood baptisms of Thomas and Sarah's children. The baptisms I gave you yesterday were all from the parish registers.
I can also confirm the Eastwood burials

Eliza Kemp was born in the 1st quarter of 1854 in Chelmsford registration district, this covers about 60 different parishes.

I appear to have found the marriage of Thomas and Sarah. 08.08.1819 in Hawkwell, Sarah's maiden name was Bilbow. I have found no record of theirs births.

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 November 16 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

Thank you very much for the information and confirmation:)  Yesterday I checked out the online service but it is a bit pricey for me right now.  I am considering it, though.

It's great that you have found the marriage of Thomas and Sarah.  Was that also at the Essex Records Office online?

Eliza Kemp's mother Charlotte was born in Sutton to Joseph Kemp and Sarah Laysell in 1831.  Eliza's brother Frederick Walter was born in Rochford in 1855, so a parish in the Chelmsford district close to Rochford might be a possibility.  Without looking that up, I'm not sure which parishes that could be.  I'll check.  Charlotte was living in Rochford in both the 1851 and 1861 census.  Eliza was not in the 1861 with her mother and grandmother.

If you can think of any information you want from me about Henry Cockley's line just ask.

Achra
Ayrshire: Micklemun, McMun, Munn, Richmond, Wilson
Clackmannan: Cairns, Scobie
Dunbartonshire: Munn, Stewart
Fife: Anderson, Cairns
Kinross: Cairns, Stevenson
Lanarkshire: Baillie, Carswell, Downs, Inglis, Thomson
Perthshire: Buchanan, Cairns, McDonald, McGibbon, McGowan, McLaren, McNaughton, Murray, Stewart, Stevenson
Ross & Cromarty: Bizzet, Johnstone, McLennan, Ross
Essex: Aves, Brazier, Cockley, Kemp, Simpson
Middlesex: Cartwright, Simpson, Ward
Norfolk: Howard, Simpson
Nottingham: Simpson

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 November 16 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Why do you think she had a daughter Eliza? The Eliza Kemp born 1854 was born to married parents so cannot have been Charlotte's child.

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 November 16 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

You have caught me out there - Eliza was from a time before I started noting my sources, so I don't know where she came from!  I also lost some info in my old genealogy program, Family Tree Maker.  I am now using Reunion for Mac.

Given that Eliza's birth was between 1851 and 1861 Census, I think that I must have got the information from another researcher many years ago.  I have looked at the parish records at the Essex Records Office and found Frederick Walter, as I indicated in an earlier post, but not Eliza.

Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow!!

Achra
Ayrshire: Micklemun, McMun, Munn, Richmond, Wilson
Clackmannan: Cairns, Scobie
Dunbartonshire: Munn, Stewart
Fife: Anderson, Cairns
Kinross: Cairns, Stevenson
Lanarkshire: Baillie, Carswell, Downs, Inglis, Thomson
Perthshire: Buchanan, Cairns, McDonald, McGibbon, McGowan, McLaren, McNaughton, Murray, Stewart, Stevenson
Ross & Cromarty: Bizzet, Johnstone, McLennan, Ross
Essex: Aves, Brazier, Cockley, Kemp, Simpson
Middlesex: Cartwright, Simpson, Ward
Norfolk: Howard, Simpson
Nottingham: Simpson

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 November 16 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Thomas cockley married Sarah bilbow at hawkwell 8/8/1819 by banns. Marriages at this time had no parents recorded. It says both single and of the parish. Both made their mark.
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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 13 November 16 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, that is a double confirmation of the marriage:)
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Ayrshire: Micklemun, McMun, Munn, Richmond, Wilson
Clackmannan: Cairns, Scobie
Dunbartonshire: Munn, Stewart
Fife: Anderson, Cairns
Kinross: Cairns, Stevenson
Lanarkshire: Baillie, Carswell, Downs, Inglis, Thomson
Perthshire: Buchanan, Cairns, McDonald, McGibbon, McGowan, McLaren, McNaughton, Murray, Stewart, Stevenson
Ross & Cromarty: Bizzet, Johnstone, McLennan, Ross
Essex: Aves, Brazier, Cockley, Kemp, Simpson
Middlesex: Cartwright, Simpson, Ward
Norfolk: Howard, Simpson
Nottingham: Simpson

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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 13 November 16 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Oops. Didn't read that from mark! Didn't find a birth for Sarah in Eastwood or hawkwell though.
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Re: 1901 help pls......Wayland.......Rochford
« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 November 16 07:56 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Cockley baptised St Nicholas, Rawreth 17.05.1795, parents John and Elizabeth.
A John Cockley (same parents) baptised St Peter and St Paul, Hockley, 18.03.1792


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