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Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (completed)
« on: Monday 08 January 07 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with Dorothea Turnly she had a sister Catherine and brothers Francis and John.(there could be more siblings).

Anything would be helpful please

Thank you

Steve
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Re:Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's nee Rochfort (Update)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 January 07 18:41 GMT (UK) »
I have found Dorothea in 1881 census in London ( living off intrest)
on the 1851 in Newton Devonshire,her mother was Dorothea nee Rochfort  (her father Col John Rochfort esq of Clogrenane co ,carlow) her mother married to Col Francis Turnly esq of Drumnasole, had land in Antrim

can anyone find anything else please
obvious people of means

Steve
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Re: Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (Update)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 January 07 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Steve,

[Can't tell you much about Dorothea, but I know a man who might ...]


The TURNLEYs were indeed major players in the 18th & 19thC, involved with multifarious trading enterprises in and around Belfast.

[I'll forward you the entries for the name (sometimes spelt as TURNLY) from the index to the Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800.]



Francis TURNLEY and Narcissus BATT imported alcoholic products from Holland and the Channel islands.  They went in to business together to run a brewery at one time, no doubt supplying the publicans of the local area ....

They seem to have had a philanthropic disposition.



They lived in Hollywood, the upmarket free-living suburb of Belfast, in a large house (from its name, possibly styled like the favourite residence of King George II and Queen Caroline at Kew in London).
Looks like they sold their house (and business?) to the DUNVILLEs.
[Hmm, Dunville's whiskey ... ]



Some information to be found online is listed below.
[The dreaded "Blight of the URLs" !
 'Twill only get worse as this year progresses ...]



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http://www.antrim.net/cushendall/historical.htm

The tower in the centre of Cushendall was built by Francis Turnley in 1817, to confine riotous prisoners. Francis Turnley, landlord of the village, was born at Richmond Lodge, Co. Down in 1765. His father was also Francis and his mother Catherine Black, a member of a wealthy family. His father obtained a position for him in the East India Company and he went to China in 1796 where he amassed a fortune of £70,000. On his return he bought two estates, one of which included the village of Cushendall.



http://radiocarbon.pa.qub.ac.uk/local/ulstertownlands/ulster/down/H/hollywood.html

HOLLYWOOD, a post-town and parish, in the barony of LOWER CASTLEREAGH, county of DOWN, and province of ULSTER, 4 miles (N. E.) from Belfast;

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The surrounding scenery is, finely varied, and embellished with numerous gentlemen's seats; among which are the episcopal palace of the Bishop of Down; Cultra, the seat of H. Kennedy, Esq.; Ballymenock, of T. Gregg, Esq.; Rockport, of I. Turnley, Esq.; Craigavad, of A. Forbes, Esq.; Garnerville, of Capt. Garner; Hollywood House, of J. Macartney, Esq.; Turf Lodge, of J. Kane, Esq.; Knoekuagoney, of Mrs. Kennedy; Bloomfield, of J. Agnew, Esq.; Clifton, of Dr. Halli day; Richmond Lodge, of F. Turnley, Esq.; Wellington,of W. Crawford, Esq.; Marino, of T. Ward, Esq.; Greenvifie, of I. Stott, Esq.; Glen Carrig, of Miss Synres; and the Spa, of J. Cordukes, Esq.



http://www.dumville.org/sources/wd1740_sou.html

last Will of John Dunville (1785-1851), dated 19 October 1850
I, John Dunville, of Richmond Lodge in the County of Down, do make and publish this my last will and testament ...



http://www.ladyisle.com/young%20family%20history/samuel_young_3111.htm

1861 BELFAST STREET DIRECTORY

CALENDER STREET
Castle Lane to Donegall Square

 10  John Dunville & Co., wholesale wine, tea and spirit
       merchants; William Dunville's residence, Richmond
       Lodge, County Down





www.proni.gov.uk

Francis TURNLY 1735-1801
Francis TURNLY 1765-1845
John     TURNLY 1819-1909


http://www.lecalehistory.co.uk/lewisN.htm
About 690 children are taught in the public schools of the parish [Newtonards], for one of which, on Erasmus Smith's foundation, a spacious house, with residences for a master and mistress, was built at an expense of £1000, defrayed jointly by the Marquess of Londonderry and the trustees of that charity; and for another a house was lately erected by Francis Turnley, Esq., under the will of his late father, with a house each for a master and mistress, and endowed with £3 per ann. to be distributed in prizes to the children.


http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis/ant/carnmoney.htm

... there is a school at Ballycraigy, built and supported by Francis Turnley, Esq.

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I think that the TURNLEYs may also have given a generous donation to help the founding of the Congregational church in Ballycraigy in 1805.

It is likely that FT was a middle-man (agent) for Lord Donegall at this time, perhaps purchasing his lands outright later - most likely in the 1820s, in the desperate big sell-off triggered by the Chichesters'  large gambling debts.

When the church needed more ground in the 1970s, this was supplied "thanks to the generosity of the TURNLEY Estates".
 
Jock
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (Update)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 January 07 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Whuttle

You are a star, so much information,thank you

I seem to keep coming back to Ships ,alcohol ,Publicans and the Channel Islands all the time.

  "If you find that man who knows even more about Dorothea Jr...can you send him my way please."

for ever in your debt
Steve
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Re: Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (Update)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 January 07 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
There is mention of some of the Turnley family on the Ros Davies County Down website,
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Briege

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Re: Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (Update)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 January 07 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Briege

Heading that way again ,right now..... ;D

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Re: Dorothea Turnly/Turnley 1817-1890's (completed
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Just like to thank everyone for their help on this one

Completed....

just need one more will....but will get that on my next trip to Belfast

Thank you all

Steve
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