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COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« on: Saturday 13 January 07 05:57 GMT (UK) »
I am presently researching the following family...ISAAC COOPER born c 1819 in Bradwell.He was chr in Hope Aug 22 1819
I think his parents might have been JOHN COOPER and SARAH --?--
He married in the 2nd 1/4 of 1840 at Chapel En Le Frith,Derby.
He died in the 1st 1/4 of 1902
His wife's name was Mary --?-- and she was born c 1822 in Chapel En Le Frith,Derby.
She died between the 1881 and 1891 census.
I do have the census trail of this couple from 1841-1901.
It is the blank and Question marks I'd love to fill in.This couple had 7 known children:
George Henry Cooper c1845  marr Elizabeth --?--
John Cooper c1848
Luther Benjamin c1850 marr Emily --?--
Abraham c1852 to 1890 marr Hannah
Mary c1855marr George Bennett c1874
Isaac c1858
Hannah Maria July 17 1861 died Feb 7 1939 marr CHARLES CHAMBERS c 189?
Isaac born c 1819 was a Lead Miner his whole life!!
Any help on this or corrections  very much appreciated.
HANNAH M. Cooper and CHARLES CHAMBERS came to Canada.
The CHAMBERS line is from Little Eaton,Derby..
Thanks in Advance...
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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 January 07 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Have you made an error on the date of Isaac Cooper;s marriage? It looks like it took place in 1840-not 1850
FreeBMD marriage
Jun qtr 1840
Chapel en le Frith
on same page
Isaac Cooper
Mary Ward
mary Ann Cooper
19410
more likely to be mary Ward???

the following marriages may be what you are seeking?
FreeBMD Marriages
Sept qtr 1867
Chapel en le frith
same page
George henry Cooper
Elizabeth Middleton
7b 835

Jun qtr 1993
Bakewell
same page
Luther Benjamin Cooper
Emily hall
7b 1358

Mar qtr 1877
Bakewell
same page
Abraham Cooper
Hannah Middleton
7b 838
another Middleton!

Dec qtr 1892
Bakewell
Hannah maria Cooper
Charles Chambers
7b 1445

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 January 07 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for you super quick reply...OOPS..yes I did make a typing mistake.
The marriage time  frame for ISAAC COOPER to MARY --?--should read.." C- 1840 ".
Now to go back and read the info you so kindly sent.. :)
IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,Hopkins,Ramage,   SCOTLAND:Ashcroft, Aitchison,Armstrong,Bathgate,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,Crozier, Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Forbis,Gillie/Gillies, Haliburton, Henderson,Higgins,Hogg,Huggan,Hunter,Hutton,Kersel,Kidd/Kyd,Laidlaw,Heugh,Matson,McLuckie,Marchbank,Miller,Notman,Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson,Roger Riddell,Ruthven,Scobbie,Simson, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Thorburn,Thomson,Turnbull,Waddel,Waldie ,Waugh.Younger

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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 January 07 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

On IGI, Isaac Cooper csd in 1819 - parents were John Cooper and Sarah. Also on IGI is a possible marriage record of a John Cooper and Sarah Parkin 2 Dec 1816 in Hope. Other children listed with parenst John & Sarah who were christened in Hope are:

John csd 28 Sep 1828 died 4 Oct 1829
Charlotte 12 Oct 1826
George 14 Jul 1822
Hannah 28 Dec 1834
Francis 11 Jan 1824
Mary 15 July 1832
Sarah 15 Aug 1830

From the 1841 census in Hope, Bradwell parish,  2 other children are shown Anne born abt 1821 and John abt 1837.

On the 1841 census  John's (senior) birth year was shown abt 1801 and his wife Sarah abt 1796. The 1851 census shows John's birth year about 1798, Bradwell and Sarah abt 1796, Tideswell. IGI has a record of a Sarah Parkin csd 27 Dec 1795, Tideswell ,parents John Parkin & Hannah.

Should keep you going for a while, happy hunting
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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 January 07 16:55 GMT (UK) »
THANKS TO SUZARD & SHIRL100 For your replies.
I need a way to figure out how to separate these two following items.
______________________
**Free BDM Marr
June 1/4 1840 Chapel En Le Frith same page
ISAAC COOPER...
MARY WARD...MARY ANN COOPER
19410
______________________
**ISAAC COOPER---- min- bat- Miner- Bradwell-father John Cooper- Lab
  MARY ANN COOPER- min- bat-Cotton Spinner-father Benjamin Cooper
________________________
I figured out there could well be two Isaac Cooper marr in June 1840 (Great) ???
Now I need to find a way to separate them.
Was one marr in Chapel En Le Frith and the other in Bradwell??

Question..what does the "min" and "bat" mean in the above?
I am asking these as this is my 1st English research
IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,Hopkins,Ramage,   SCOTLAND:Ashcroft, Aitchison,Armstrong,Bathgate,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,Crozier, Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Forbis,Gillie/Gillies, Haliburton, Henderson,Higgins,Hogg,Huggan,Hunter,Hutton,Kersel,Kidd/Kyd,Laidlaw,Heugh,Matson,McLuckie,Marchbank,Miller,Notman,Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson,Roger Riddell,Ruthven,Scobbie,Simson, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Thorburn,Thomson,Turnbull,Waddel,Waldie ,Waugh.Younger

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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 January 07 18:44 GMT (UK) »
I can only find 1 Isaac Cooper married in 1840
Maybe I misled you
Here is the full page for that marriage

Jun qtr 1940
(this is when the marriage was registered-so the actual marriage date would be between end mar-end of June)

Reference is Volume 19 Page 410

all the names listed on page 410 are

Hugh carside Bower
Ann Bradwell
Isaac Cooper
Mary Ann Cooper
Isaac Maltby
Mary Ward

They are not listed in couples -it means that those 3 males married (probably) one of the 3 females listed (occasionally the partner is on a different page)
as you knew Isaac married a Mary, I just listed the Mary's named
As Isaac's wife is just mary (not mary A) on census then it is more likely (but not definate) that Isaac married Mary Ward
which is why I stated "on same page"

Chapel en le Frith is not necessarily the town/village where the marriage took place. Chapel en le frith is the registration district which covers several towns/villages (one of them covered is Hope)

as for min and bat
I think min =minor, which is under 21 at time of marriage
possibly bat =batchelor (as opposed to Wid+widower -showing a previous marriage)
However ofor a female it usually states Sp=spinster for a 1st marriage

Hope this helps-at least you don't have to worry about there being another isaac marrying abt the same time!

Suz


Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: COOPER,ISAAC c1819 Bradwell,Derby
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 16:01 GMT (UK) »
AGAIN...I say THANK YOU!! I now need to get busy and order certificates,and I even know where to send for them and cost of such.
You have been such a big help...again Thanks!!!
IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,Hopkins,Ramage,   SCOTLAND:Ashcroft, Aitchison,Armstrong,Bathgate,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,Crozier, Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Forbis,Gillie/Gillies, Haliburton, Henderson,Higgins,Hogg,Huggan,Hunter,Hutton,Kersel,Kidd/Kyd,Laidlaw,Heugh,Matson,McLuckie,Marchbank,Miller,Notman,Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson,Roger Riddell,Ruthven,Scobbie,Simson, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Thorburn,Thomson,Turnbull,Waddel,Waldie ,Waugh.Younger