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Offline Keith Bateman

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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:13 GMT (UK) »
I have John Gates Barnsley b1849 in Northamtonshire, England - who came out with his parents George & Ann in 1852.

I presume he married c 1870 and had a child of the same name - and that is the one we are now on?!

Any chance of finding a connection?

I can only just keep up with all this data - GREAT isn't it.

I need a late night drink now (just coffee honest) - although it should be something stronger in celebration for all you have found for me!!

Keith
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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:13 GMT (UK) »
hello  there

Isn't this  a  rather sad  thread  a  lot  of the family  died  young

I see  that annie  gates  died  in suspicious circumstances and  there was an  inquest  held

you  would  have  to say  that thomas scott barnsley  decided to  move to  queensland ( who can blame him hey trish mate)
glad  the birth at sea   record of  pauline  lead  you  on  this  merry chase  Keith even if you  have  to  take  up  drinking ::)

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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:17 GMT (UK) »
No bigamist Keith
Agnes Lavinia Jordan d 1909 age 22 Newport (#9970) (F. Fred James Keay M. Agnes Lavinia Bateman)
John & Agnes had 2 children before she died
Ivy Agnes Lavenia Jordan b 1909 Williamstown (#15436)
Fred John Jordan d 1908 P Melbourne (#3472)

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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:22 GMT (UK) »
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Agnes Lavinia Jordan d 1909 age 22 Newport (#9970) (F. Fred James Keay M. Agnes Lavinia Bateman)
Fiona

Am I right with saying her mother was a "BATEMAN" - how's that for a coincidence - the Gates are my mother's line NOT my fathers!!

Small world!!

I can't even get a drink of coffee  tropicalj - toooo much going on  ;D ;D ;D

Keith
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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:24 GMT (UK) »
hello  there Keith

was  trying  to  find Agnes Jordan death

please  note  it  is  under JORDON


yes  her  mothers name  was Bateman

will check  her  birth

regards jenn
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BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:30 GMT (UK) »
I have John Gates Barnsley b1849 in Northamtonshire, England - who came out with his parents George & Ann in 1852.

I presume he married c 1870 and had a child of the same name - and that is the one we are now on?!

Any chance of finding a connection?

I can only just keep up with all this data - GREAT isn't it.

I need a late night drink now (just coffee honest) - although it should be something stronger in celebration for all you have found for me!!

Keith

Keith

The John Gates Barnsley in WWI is  John born 2 Sep 1891 in Queensland. He is the son of your John Bates Barnsley b. 1849, who didn't marry until 1889. How he got to Queensland is yet to be determined.

Sit down and have some red wine (bugger coffee) and draw a picture of all these folks everyone is talking about & how they all interrelate. The name Barnsley seems to be not so common - In Queensland I have listed ALL that existed to 1914, so you are probably related (inlaw like) to all the Barnsleys in Australia. We can blame you for everything they did or didn't do  :D   :D

Sue

The concept of counties and parishes exists in Oz - no doubt copied from England. Qld was divided into a series of counties/parishes and many (probably all) had county names taken from England. Real property desciptions tend to be Lot nnn  on Plan nnn County of xxxx  Parish of xxx - and if I could find mine - I would give the actual details.
The names could well have been devised by the surveyors who did the original work.

Maybe John Gates Barnsley was the first person in the Georgetown area of Queensland? He could have named it the County of Cumberland - If you look at the records for his brother, you will see it says Georgetown Qld

Looking at the map - www.multimap.com  - it is to the west, between Cairns and Townsville - so they probably were the whole town  :o   :o   :o

Imagine being left there a widow with 10 children  :'(  :'(

Trish

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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:34 GMT (UK) »
You must just have an Oz Fan Club keith - Maybe its that wonderful cat

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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:40 GMT (UK) »
hello  there

now  trisha don't tell  keith  too  many  fibs

George Town is  part  of  the Etheridge Shire Coucil 
the area was founded  in the  1860's a bit early  for George  :o
 http://www.savannah-guides.com.au/page2-6.html


here is a little about  the  joint   George  might   have gone  there for  minerals ;D

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Found their details - now what!?
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 20 January 07 01:42 GMT (UK) »
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Death John Gates Barnsley father George Barnsley Mother Annie Gates 20 May 1903 1903/001806

I have just re-read this point - so that makes sense now - he married when he was 39 - have just joined the 2 JG Barnsleys together and it all fits nicely!!

When I get time I will have a look at the map and see where is what!

Just a few more Barnsley's to add to my list!!  :o ;D

Thank you

Did I say thank you

Keith

P.S. If you don't stop soon I will have more relations in Australia than I do in England!!  ::) :o ;D
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