1851 census look up please

[KA]

In 1841, Southwark, Bermondsey I find a John and Mary Ongley.  They are both stated as being 50.  Occupation is given as 'ind'.

I think I have found his death in 1860 in Bermondsey.

Can anybody find him in 1851?  I think I have found his wife's death in 1870, so John and Mary should still be together in 1851.

Kind regards

KA

[heywood]

Hello Ka,
I can't even find them in 1841 to check. There is no Mary Ongley with a John- separate yes- but together no, unless they have been wrongly transcribed. I have checked Marys for 1791 and Johns etc.
can you give more details please.
best wishes
heywood

[juliew]

Found this family on the 1851 census civil parish Bermondsey reg dist Bermondsey sub reg dist St. James.

John Angley age 61 widow born Horley Surrey occ looks like grannary foreman
James Henry Angley son age 25 born Rotherhithe Surrey occ grannary clerk
Anne Angley dau in law age 30 born  Fothsland as transcribed (could be Folkstone).

Julie

[Isobelruss]

1861
Mary Ann Ongley 70 widow  licenced victualler b Tonbridge Kent
James 39 son married  cooper b Middex London
Charlotte 34 sons wife b Bermondsey Middex house servant
Robert 29 son b London Middex  cabinet maker
address Cock  public house Camberwell Green Surrey
RG9 379 fol 8 p 9

Wrong family they are still in this pub on 41 census.

[Isobelruss]

Think thats right family that Julie found address 7 New Church Street same as 41 and James was with them in 41 and it does seem to be Folkestone for wifes PoB
HO107 1560 fol 312 p20

[KA]

Many thanks.

Isobel - Out of interest may I have details of the 1861 Family in the Cock public house as you found them in 1841.  I'm interested in what children may be there in particular.

Kind regards.

KA

[Isobelruss]

1841
Thomas Ongley  50 licenced victualler
Ann 45
James 20 cooper
Robert 11
John 8
Charles 6
Charlotte Jones 15 f/s
Ann,James Robert not born in county
Cock Road Side St Giles Camberwell Lambeth
HO107/1050/2 fol 49 p 20