Can you help a Sassenach ?

[Foz]

Hello everybody,   
I do hope someone can help me.  I'm trying to do my friends tree for her birthday in May.  I'm really very stuck on one branch.  Her Grandfather was John Clark Hairstens/Hairstaines b.c.1884 Dumfries.  On 1st December 1905 he married Ellen Morrison b. 1884 Penpont. 
I think he had 5 siblings:
Mary b.c.1882  Stranraer
David b.c.1887  Dumfries
Alfred b.c.1888  Kilmarnock
Jane b.c.1896  Partick
Sarah b.c.1900  Dumfries

I'm desperate to find anything more about them, and their parents John Clark Hairstens, a dancing teacher and his wife Jane McCowan/McGowan.  I know nothing about John Clark Hairstens senior, but I think maybe Jane McCowan was born 1882 Edinburgh.
I would be very grateful for any help at all, and if you could go any further back that would be great,
I'm not asking for much, am I !!!!!!!!                       

Thank you very much
Regards
Foz

[ellenbrora]

Hello Foz

One piece of info to start you off.

On www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , one credit gets the following information:

John Hairstens married Jane McCowen (note spellings), at St Giles, Edinburgh in 1882.

5 further credits would let you view the actual certificate, which will give you the names of both the bride and the groom's parents, and take you back a generation.

You can purchase a minimum of 30 credits for £6.00 - fabulous value!

I will have a look now on the 1881 census discs and see if I can find John and Jane anywhere.

Regards

Ellen.

[ellenbrora]

Hi again Foz - a few more bits of info:

Can't find anything yet on the 1881 census discs. So went to scotlandspeople again and searched the 1871 census for a John Hairstens. Found only one relevant one (for the cost of only one credit again). For another 5 credits, you could view the full census page online.

This was John Hairstens, age 13, at Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire - very close to Dumfries.

Went then to Ancestry and checked the 1861 census for an approx 3 year old John Hairstens (or variation on the spelling!), and found what is almost certainly him with his family as follows:

Living at 39 Church Street, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire

Burgas Hairstone (cracking name - love it!), age 43, Gardner, b. Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire
Mary Hairstone, age 32, wife, b. Sanquhar, Dumfrieshire
Mary Hairstone, age 20, daughter, factory worker, b. Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire  (so looks like Mary above is Burgas' 2nd wife)
John Hairstone, age 3, b. Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire
Jane Clark, age 30, sister in law, (forgot to note down her place of birth, but think it was Sanquhar also - will recheck).

So looks like Mary Hairstone is nee Clark, which fits nicely with John Clark Hairstone/Hairstens' middle name and makes it fairly certain this is the right family.

Hope this is of some help in getting you going.  No luck with Jane's side yet, but I'll keep trying.

Cheers

Ellen.

[Foz]

Hello ellenavon,

Thank you so much for your findings !   Well done.    

Burgas Hairstone  -    what a name !!          I will spend some time this weekend looking at

scotlandspeople to see what I can find.

Thanks once again.

Regards

Foz        

[Foz]

Hello again,   

I've searched www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and found  John Hairstens parents were Mary Clark and

Thomas Hairstone (not Burgas as on 1861 census !), and Jane McCowens parents were Thomas

McCowen and Sarah Cairns. 

Thomas's parents were John Hairstone/Hairsten/various spellings!  and Margaret Peden. 

Mary Clarks parents were John Clark and Jean Sommerville

Now, I can't find anything at all about Thomas McCowens or Sarah Cairns parents.  I've studied the

original copies of certs on scotlandspeople and find them unable to read.

Can anyone help please ?   

Regards

Foz     

[MonicaL]

Hi Foz

If I can make two suggestions:

You could post the relevant section of the cert. image here on RootsChat - RootsChatters love the challenge of "Can anyone make out what this says..." or,

You can contact Scotlands People regarding an illegible image and they can send you out a paper copy which is normally much clearer, see this link: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=1210

Regards.

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Foz

Just some bits on info on Thomas and Sarah in case you don't have them:

From the 1851 Census:

Thomas McCowen    27, journeyman tailor, Glenluce, Wigtownshire
Sarah McCowen    25, b. Ireland
Robert McCowen    8, Glenluce, Wigtownshire

Address: Main Street, Glenluce, Wigtownshire

And the 1861 Census:

Thomas McCowen    38, tailor, b. Glenluce, Wigtonshire
Sarah McCowen    35, b. Ireland
Sarah McCowen    16, b. Old Luce, Wigtonshire
James McCowen    8,  b. Old Luce, Wigtonshire
Annie McCowen    4,  b. Old Luce, Wigtonshire
Isabella McCowen 3,  b. Old Luce, Wigtonshire
Williamina Cavin 6 Mo, nurseing (I wonder if mother Jane was a wet nurse to baby?) b. Kirkcolm, Wigtonshire

Address: 8 Rankins Court, Inch, Wigtownshire

[MonicaL]

The most obvious birth and marriage details for Thomas are actually under the variant of MCEWEN:

THOMAS MCEWEN     Christening:  12 MAY 1822  Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland
Parents: Father: JAMES MCEWEN    Mother: ANN LATIMORE

THOMAS MCEWEN     Spouse: SARAH CAIRNS    
Marriage:  13 FEB 1851  Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland

And the IGI children:

1. JESSIE MCCOWEN  Birth: 27 APR 1867 Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland
2. THOMAS MCCOWEN Birth: 30 MAR 1865 Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland
3. JANE MCCOWEN Birth: 04 SEP 1862 Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland
4. ANN MCCOWEN Birth: 20 DEC 1856 Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland
5. ELIZABETH MCCOWEN Birth: 30 MAR 1865 Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland
6. ISABELLA MCCOWAN Christening: 20 SEP 1851 Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland

Regards.

Monica

[MonicaL]

I think Thomas was married before he married Sarah Cairns. There is is this marriage entry, also under McEwen:

THOMAS MCEWEN     Marriages: Spouse:  MARY ANN HEUCHAN    
Marriage:  01 JUL 1844  Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland

And this birth entry for probably the Robert McCowen who shows as son in 1851:

ROBERT MCEWEN     Christening: 28 AUG 1842  Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland
Parents: Father: THOMAS MCEWEN    Mother: MARY ANN HUCHAN

And for the Sarah who shows with the family in the 1861 Census:

SARAH MCWHIRTER MCEWEN  Christening:  10 MAR 1845  Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland. Parents: Father:  THOMAS MCEWEN  Mother: MARIANNE HEUCHAN


The info is looking good for Thomas, but as for Sarah with her Irish side.......
Might be worthwhile looking for her in the 1841, she may have come over with her family before her marriage.

Regards.

Monica