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Re: elphick
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 February 11 12:12 GMT (UK) »
If we have establisehed that your Ellen isnt the done who is a dtr of Levi, then we need to go back to basics to find who she is.

Have you got her in 1881 as James Salters wife? Can you give us detials please?

Were they together in 1871? Isee a James Salter with wife Ellen in 1871 but they are born and living in Hampshire!

What is the source for the information that her maiden name was Elphick?
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Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 February 11 12:16 GMT (UK) »
OK - here is 1881

RG11 3659 124 37
71 Robert Street Everton, Lancs

James Salter 40 Carter bn Devon Tiverton
Ellen 38 wife bn Brighton Sussex
John 10 son bn Lancs Liverpool
Ellen 8 dtr   "
William 2 son   "
Emma 2mths dtr    "

so they could have been up north in 1871.
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
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Re: elphick
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 February 11 12:25 GMT (UK) »
1891 (just to fill out the picture a bit)

RG12 2925 76 16
Ellen 46 widow laundress bn Brighton
John 21 carter
Ellen 18
William 13
Emma 10
Thomas 7
Jane 4    all children bn Liverpool
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 February 11 12:36 GMT (UK) »
This looks like them in 1871 - indexed Salton, and James place of birth very different! but I reckon it is them.

RG10 3777 108 34
14 Lydia Union? Street Liverpool
James 36 labourer bn Middx Paddington
Ellen 30 wife bn Brighton Sussex
John 9 mths bn Liverpool

none of it is very clear, ages might not be as I have typed.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: elphick
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 February 11 14:04 GMT (UK) »

Birth registration
Ellen Elphick
Sept q 1845,Brighton  7 469


Ellen Elphick
Mar q 1845,Steyning  7 469

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 February 11 16:05 GMT (UK) »
38 in 1881
30 in 1871

I am not sure about the 19 yr old one in the house of penitents because I found a 29 yr old servant in 1871, that could be her .... and we know ours is up north and with James Salter by 1871.

I'll see if I can find it again.

modified to add:  Memory not good. The one I had seen was RG10 1088 62 52, a 27 yr old Ellen ELphick born Shoreham.

I'd still be interested to know what the source was for her name being ELphick
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: elphick
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 February 11 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Blooming head. ::)

Brighton Ellen is 7 272 not 7 469

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know