Link: German headstones in Australia

[Mylett]

We've sent some graves from Walcha & Uralla areas to Detlef.

Bob & Gail

[Swaggy]

G'day to all,
thanks indeed for all your hints. After two not too lazy "cemetery trips" to Australia in 2006 and 2007 (38.000 kms - 14.675 headstone photos and 132 cemeteries in SA, VIC, NSW and QLD) only abt. 4.000 photos and 40 cemeteries are online up to now. After learning a lot of HTML's limits thanks to these heaps of informations we finally changed my sub-site "German Headstones in Australian Cemeteries" into a SQL database (PHP Gedview). Not too easy to get through for an old bloke like me!

Done up to now:

A. Cemeteries in SA:
Angle Grove; Appila; Australia Plains; Baldina - Klaebes; Belvidere; Bethel; Bethanien - Bethany; Booleroo Center; Bright; Brownlow; Buchsfelde ; Buchsfelde - St.Paul; Burra; Caltowie; Cambrai; Carlsruhe - Kunden; Carrieton; Clare; Concordia ; Ebenezer; Eurelia ; Fowlers Bay ; Freeling; Friedrichswalde - Tarnma ("Fritztown"); Geranium Plain; Gnadenberg New!; Gnadenfrei - Marananga ; Greenock; Gruenberg; Habermann Private Cemetery ; Hahndorf ; Hookina Old Cemetery
Hookina (New Cemetery); Julia (parents and uncles of Colin Thiele); Kyankutta; Laura; Light Pass - Immanuel  ; Light Pass - Enge Pforte/ Narrow Gate  ; Lindley; Lobethal; Magdala; Melrose; Morgan; Mt. Crawford; Murbko; Nain ; Nain - Schmaler Weg/ Narrow  Way  ; Neales Flat - St. Stephan;
Neales Flat - St. John/ St. Paul ; Neukirch; Neu-Mecklenburg - Gomersal  ; North-Rhine; Orroroo; Overland Corner; Peep Hill; Pekina; Penong; Petersburg - Peterborough; Peters Hill "A"; Peters Hill - Huppatz; Peters Hill "C"; Pine Creek; Point Pass - Old Cemetery; Point Pass - Emmaus; Point Pass - Immanuel; Robertstown - St. John   ; Robertstown - Zion  ; Rosenthal - Rosedale; Rosenthal - Dost; Rowlands Flat; Schomburgk ; Schoenborn; Schondorf (near Bethel); Schoenfeld; Sedan; Sevenhills
Siegersdorf ; South Rhine; Spalding; Springfield; Springton; St. Kitts - St. Paul   ; St. Kitts - St. Petri; Steinfeld - Stonefield; Steinthal; Stockwell; Sutherlands; Tablelands; Tanunda - Langmeil   ; Tanunda - St. John (few photos) ; Terowie; Willowie - Old Cemetery; Willowie - New Cemetery; Wilmington; Wirrulla; Yacka.

B. Cemeteries in Victoria:
Beulah; Dimboola; Doncaster ; Ebenezer; Gnadenthal; Goroke; Harkaway; Herrnhut; Hochkirch - Tarrington ; Jeparit ; Kenmare ; Murtoa; Minyip; Natimuk; Neukirch - Byaduk; Nhill; Rainbow; Sheephill; Tabor; Tatura - German War Cemetery.

C. Cemeteries in New South Wales:
Bethel; Burrumbuttock - Holy Ghost; Elong Elong; Jindera - Bethlehem; Jindera - General; Jindera - St. John; Sydney - Rookwood (one photo) ; Uralla; Walcha (few photos) ; Walla Walla.

D. Queensland:
Maryborough; Springsure.

Though only abt. one quarter of my photos have been worked out I am preparing my third OZ trip für early 2008, and this is the pre-pre-preliminary list of cemeteries to do:
South Australia:
Barossa:   St. Jakobi Lutheran near Lyndoch; Lyndoch general cemetery
Barossa Ranges: Eden Valley;   Friedensberg near Springton
Adelaide Hills: Blumberg (Birdwood); Springhead near Mount Torrens
Adelaide area: Hope Valley; (Klemzig)
Murray plains: Bundey (only a few stones) between Schomburgk and Geranium Plains; Bower (two Lutheran cemeteries); Sandleton (two Lutheran cemeteries); Rheinthal church site (one gravestone) near Cambrai; Rheinthal Lutheran cemetery east of main road; Millendella; Palmer; Monarto; Black Hill (two cemeteries);
Murray river: Paisley (across the river from Blanchetown); Swan Reach; Nildottie Lutheran cemetery
Loxton area: Loxton; Bookpurnong; Myrla; Taplan
Mallee area: Bakara Pinnaroo; Lameroo
South east of S.A.:   a group of gravestones with German surnames at Millicent; there must be German gravestones at Mount Gambier
Lower North: Sichem (Dalkey) near Balaklava; Condowie Lutheran cemetery; Blyth and possibly Hoyleton
Yorke Peninsula: Tiparra Lutheran cemetery; South Kilkerran Lutheran cemetery; Pink Lake cemetery near Yorketown; probably also Edithburgh
Eyre peninsula: Cummins Lutheran; Denial Bay Lutheran (west of Ceduna)

Victoria:
Walkerville: ... there is an old cemetery owned by The Uniting Church (Rev Dr. R Iles is the minister) in Walkerville, 17 Smith Street, South Australia 5081. There are a number of headstones of German people there, some in old Gothic script...
German tombstones in the grounds of Schramm's cottage; a Museum at Doncaster; Thomastown;
Northcote; Germantown (Grovedale); Freshwater Creek

NSW:
Duck Creek (Trungley Hill) Lutheran cemetery; Temora; Lutheran section in the very large  Rookwood cemetery in Sydney; at least one very early German gravestone in the very old Anglican
cemetry in Parramatta

WA:
Perth(?); Katanning.

Most of these information I owe to Don Ross of Tanunda and Rupert Paech of Walla Walla. I did not check the localities nor did I work out my route. Renting a 4WD APOLLO-camper then I will be a little bit more unindependend and maybe won't get bogged like I got in 2007.

Please take my several excuses: I could not reply any message here because I did not know anything about Rootchat until a few days ago. And frightening enough my first mail is such a monster posting - I'm sorry for that too.
Thanks for your hints, your support (hello Bob & Gail!) and Dankeschoen for your patience!
Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland,
Detlef (R. Papsdorf)

www.familienarchiv-papsdorf.de
(Member of the Adelaide Northern Districts Family History Group ANDFHG) 

[lensgarden]

can we add this link to the other posts?

a lot of cmeteries in qld all indexed and photographed.

http://www.chapelhill.homeip.net/FamilyHistory/Photos/index.htm

len

[krisesjoint]

Hello Detlef, 

A big welcome to RootsChat 

How lovely to hear from you. Great to hear you will be returning. (He really is a lovely helpful man folks) You really seem to enjoy your travels. I am sorry I have removed your email address from your above post. We do not allow email addresses to be published on the boards. Normally I leave a

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but your monster post was too long and trying to do so I exceeded the maximum number of characters allowed (5000)

I did note the change of URL to your site when I last visted it a couple of weeks ago,  and altered the URL here accordingly.

I have tried to contact you since you returned home but do not get a reply. I have a disk for you I think you will enjoy - a couple of lovely little cemeteries near here, you do not have listed. Every stone is German (Have noted the email address you provided and will try that one.) 

I am glad the rest of your trip was productive. I did want to know if you discovered anything further on the swagman? I did post it here as I told you I would but no one came up with anything. Hope you can get the members motivated with it now. A fascinating story.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,222497.0.html

Look forward to hearing of your discoveries and so lovely to hear from you.

All the best............Kris 

PS. Looks like another good source there Len. A lot of German Stones available. Thanks for that. Hope you have added it to the Queensland Resources also.

[lensgarden]

g'day kris,

could you direct me to the qld resources please?

len

[krisesjoint]

I should have looked before I suggested it Len. 

I see the link has been listed by Brisgirl

For future reference see

Australia Resources

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.

Queensland Resources

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,258341.0.html

Cheers Kris 

[Swaggy]

Hi Kris,
thanx for your exiting good news. No worries about deleting my email address. We shouldn't support those "phishers" to harden our (online) ways. 
The URL of my website never had changed. It was (and still is)
www.familienarchiv-papsdorf.de or (the direct way to the Australian sub site):
www.familienarchiv-papsdorf.de/ozcemeteries.htm 
Yes, I sure do like those extended OZ-trips that I divide into two parts:
1. The "voluntary exercises"  (sightseeing, touring, walking ec.)
2. The "obligational duties"  (cemeteries)
But, to be honest - "2" may be "1" as well and vice versa! 
...
Sorry enough I don't trace back the roots of Samuel "Frenchy" Hoffmeister, who committed suicise at the Combo waterhole near Dagword Station (Kynuna/ QLD) in 1894. Researches turned out to be quite complicated - and I am too far away to visit the clerical/ local/ national archives in Adelaide and/ or QLd for just an afternoon. It seems that the family of Hoffmeister came from South Africa to Australia. But this is not much more than a rumour ...
But, anyway,  just like a "waste-product" I found out many exiting news in Busenborn, a tiny village in the Vogelsberg Mountains in Hesse, only abt. 30 k's away from my home village. Two brothers of this familiy (I could trace them back until 1650 without any anstableness) created a hole bunch of descendents and - crazy enough - two of them (cousins) in QLD respectively NSW met by the "direct" way over Detlef in Germany. 
(Amoung their ancestors is Friedrich (Frederick) Stachelroth (Stackelroth), one of the four miners to accompany Prof. Johann Menge on the COROMANDEL to assist him by his geological researches in Down Under. Sorry enough, I could not find Friedrich in the Harz mountains until now, but I keep him in mind!
Now I am concentrating on "my"  OZ-cemeteries, an awful  arduous, time-consuming and ... costly project and the genealogies of some Australian/ German "V.I.P.'s) like Amalie DIETRICH and Gotthard Daniel Fritzsche, pastor in Lobethal/ SA (* Liebenwerda, Saxony 1797   + Lobethal 1863).
Attached please find his birth entry of 1797.
Who tries to decipher it? 
Beste Gruesse,
Detlef
 

[sparrett]

Hi Detlef,
Just a word to say how much your work is appreciated by searchers in Australia.
One can imagine that it is not always easy and pleasurable in tough and rough places.  The heat and other condtions must be hard to put up with at times, but the website is, and will continue to be, really a  treasured asset to those seeking German heritage  in Australia.

Congrats and thanks for enriching our resources R chat.
Sue

[Swaggy]

Hi Sue,
thanx for your mail. No, it's not too easy to do all the photographing after having left the European winter a few days before. But, as the saying goes:
"Wo ein Wille ist - ist auch ein Weg" (Where there's a will there's a way to push it through).
I try to do most of my photos not too late in the afternoon because of the sunset and the common orientation of Christian graves - things you need to learn by doing! 
After having changed the headstone presentation from the (unsuitable) HTML to SQL/ PHP things are working out slowly: Right now I am reworking Dimboola/ VIC, then I am proceeding to Murtoa/ VIC (both are still "HTML" on my website). Then, without any breathing time, we are presenting "new" cemeteries (like Australia Plain and many other).
...
Of course you know that pastor Gotthard Daniel Fritzsche was married to a very well educated and musical young lady from Hamburg. Her name was "Dorette" NEHRLICH. Her given name was Johanna Dorothea, and she was born on Sept. 9, 1807 in Allermöhe near Hamburg (now suburb). Attached please find the photo of the Dreifaltigkeitskirche (Trinity Church) of Allermöhe - the place where this estonishing young lady must have been baptized in!
The genealogy of the Fritzsche/ Nehrlich family maybe will be subject of an article in "Familie und Geschichte", a German genealogical magezine - why not offering this article to an Australian magazine too?
Herzliche Gruesse aus Deutschland (0° Celsius right now  )