grave inscription 13 rf 1915 1918

[janbubblegum]

hi  does anybody know what this inscription  13 RF  1815 1818 in the right hand corner of my granddads grave there is also a symbol above it like a round bowl with ribbons coming out!!!!? i know he died 7 years after ww1 of the affects of mustard gas  can anyone help id be very grateful ta jan

[neil1821]

Jan,
I'm a bit confused by the description 
Any chance of a photograph of this inscription and symbol?

The dates on the inscription are definitely 1815 & 1818, not 1915 & 1918?
13 RF might be 13th Royal Fusiliers??

Neil

[casalguidi]

Are you thinking along the lines of something like (a wild guess) 13th Royal Fusilers 1915-1918?

I assume this is on the front of the grave and not the numbering of the grave/stone mason's marks which are usually quite unobtrusive on the bottom or the rear of the stone?

Casalguidi

[janbubblegum]

hi oops sorry it is 1915 1918 !! ive got a photo of the grave which ill get someone to post for me ( im hopeless with scanners and what not)        ithought it could be the royal fusiliers ( did some of them come from shropshire?) it is a quite big inscription on the front of the gravestone and i wonder if they paid for the grave would that be likely ? dont think my nan could have afforded it she was left with 3 small boys 1 being my dad and he was just 1 month old  why would the date be 1915 instead of 1914 do you yhink thats when he joined up?    thanks for everybodies help ill try get that photo posted thanks  vv much jan

[harribobs]

i think that it's the 13th battalion Royal fusiliers



with a little artistic license from the mason

there's few possibles on the MIC index

this may be him

Description     
Medal card of Williams, John E
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
Royal Fusiliers    17861    Private
Labour Corps    74785    Private

[neil1821]

Hi Jan,
Ah, now I see the photo I agree with Harribobs, it's a (not very accurate) representation of the Royal Fusiliers badge (a flaming grenade).
Presumably then he served from 1915-1918. Do you have any photographs of him in uniform, or anything similar?

Neil

[casalguidi]

Yes, I agree with that too

If the grave is situated in a local borough (council) cemetery then you should be able to get some information from them ie.

Burial register (details of burial)

Grave register (details of everybody in the grave)

Grave purchase register (who purchased the grave and when any monuments erected etc.)

Casalguidi

[janbubblegum]

thank you all so much for all that info !!!! he must have joined up in 1915 age just 17 then the affects of that mustard gas took him like so many others (lest we forget) i will try to do some more digging  but i wouldn't have got anywhere without the help you have all given me thanks so much!! if you find any more info id be grateful thanks jan   i will try to find a picture  but we have some but nobody knows who there of . I know weve got one of somebody in uniform on a horse is that likely?