What does this say/mean?

[Gardener]

I read it as

Ellen Barnes f Collin
Ring Piecer of Fields Fold Chadderton

and assumed it was f for formerly.


There is a marriage for a Raymond J Barnes to Ellen Collin 1913, Liverpool. Don't know if that has any connection.

[janan]

Hi,

Please see description below from index of old occupations:

Piecer / Piecener  Employed to piece together broken threads in weaving. Often children.

hope this helps, too.

And as there is a sort of spinning machine called a Ring Spinning machine she was probably acting as piecer for this
see
http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/q-r.html#R

I agree it is Collin not collar and thus probably a former name

Jan

[lostnconfused]

Thanks for the feedback its really useful.

The interesting side to this is that Annie (my GM) was always very secretive about her family and maybe this is why.

We do have her father named as James Barnes on the Marriage Cert but that doesnt preclude this being an avenue of interest, or does it?

Andy

[SheilaM]

It most likely says Cotton Ring Piecer ie The person who would piece the cotton together when it snapped as it was being spun onto rings in the Ring Room of a cotton mill.

6 Fields Fold, Chadderton UD (it was an Urban District of Oldham until the 1970's).

Sheila

[Gardener]

1901 census has this family

6 Fields Fold, Chadderton

Wm Barnes,head,m,40,general labourer,London,Croydon
Ann Ellen ditto,wife,m,33,Lancs,Oldham
Ellen ditto,dau,12,ditto
George A ditto,son,10,Lancs,Chadderton
Annie ditto,dau,5,ditto
Frederick ditto,son,3,ditto
Mary A ditto,dau,1,ditto

RG13/3822 fol 150 page 28

[Gardener]

And 1891

No 6 Field Fold
Thomas Barns,head,m,30,watchman cotton mill,Devon,Newton Abbott
Mary ditto,wife,30

RG12/3316 folio 145 page 15

Next page, next household

Field Fold
No 5 Private
William Barns,head,m,29,stocker at cotton mill,Surrey,Croyden
AnnElen ditto,wife,m,24,Lancs,Oldham
Ellen ditto,dau,2,Lancs,Chadderton
George ditto,son,4m,Lancs,Chadderton

[SheilaM]

You may already have this but just in case.  There is a marriage in 1889 for:

William Henry Barnes & Ann Ellen Ashworth at St Mary's Oldham, March Quarter 1889.  Vol 8d Page 665

Sheila