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Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« on: Tuesday 06 February 07 17:19 GMT (UK) »
I apologise now if I am in the wrong area.

I am looking for someone with access to the 1851 and 1861 censuses.

I am looking for a John Morren who was born c 1801 and was married to Helen Leslie.  They had at least four girls and four boys between 1833 and 1854. According to the IGI some were born at Auchindoir and Kearn.  Their names were Rachel, George, Sarah, William, John, Helen, Hugh and Jane.

I have been told that they lived at Barflat early on and Mortlach Dufftown later in life.

Any help with this would be great.

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Betty

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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 17:26 GMT (UK) »
here is the 1861 census

1861 census; barflet, auchindoir, aberdeenshire (the morrin family)

john...age 60...farmer of 50 acres
helen...age 45
rachel...age 26
john...age 20
helen...age 15
hugh...age 6
jean...age 6

all born auchindoir
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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 17:33 GMT (UK) »
same address on the 1851 census

the morren family

john...age 49...farmer
helen...age 37
rachel...age 17...house servant
george...age 15...farm labourer
sarah...age 13
john...age 11
helen...age 4



will try and find george in 1861



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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 17:46 GMT (UK) »
1841 census says that the family are still living there

john...age 30...farmer
helen...age 25
rachel...age 6
george..age 4
sarah...age 2
william...age 1
donald mcleannon....age 60...ag labourer


1861 i cannot find george but what i did find was....

1861 census; auchindior

jane...age 31...wife of ploughman
jane...age 8
william...age 6
george...age 4
mary...age 2

all born auchindoir


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 18:02 GMT (UK) »
maybe some kind soul can follow this family on the 1871 census

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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 18:38 GMT (UK) »
That is brilliant. Much more than I expected. 

I take it Barflet was an area of Auchindoir back in the 1800s.

Can I ask you to see if you can find John Morren's father in the 1841 census.   His name was William but the spelling of Morren may be Murrion or Murian.  He was born c 1761 and died on 5th July 1844.  It is thought that he lived at Barfelt.  His wife Mary died in 1836.

I am not sure where the Jane you found in the 1861 census fits in yet but thank you for that.

Thanks again

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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 19:09 GMT (UK) »
found your john's father living with john's sister sarah.

1841 census; barflat

william...age 75...farmer
sarah...age 35


1851 census; barflat

sarah...head...age 54...stocking maker...born auchindoir


1861 census; barflat, (john's daughter sarah is here with aunt)

sarah...age 65...farmer's daughter...born auchindoir
sarah...niece...age 22...farmer's daughter...born auchindoir


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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 19:35 GMT (UK) »
now i have a problem......hoping that gadget or monica could lend a hand here...

the william that was on the 1841 census (son of john) looks like he is in hospital in 1851 (address; robert gordon hospital..william, aged 10) but the jane in the census of 1861 was jane watt married to william morren???

now in the 1861 census it states that she is the wife of a ploughman, well....

1861 census; new noth, rhynie, aberdeenshire

william...age 31...ploughman...born auchindoir


how can this be? is he a cousin of your john?

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Re: Census look up please 1851 and 1861
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 February 07 20:16 GMT (UK) »
So far I have not picked up on another William apart from John having a brother William who died in infancy.  He was born in 1797.

I have William's son being baptised c1839 which would make the age of 10 correct in 1851.  He married Margaret Adams in 1870 and had two children George and Margaret.

Thanks again for your help.

Cheers
Betty