1851 census, Finsbury, London.COMPLETED, Thankyou.

[Eilleen]

Barbara,thankyou , I feel I can tell him to let it lie. If he bring's in another line of his tree, I'm going to buy him a chainsaw, Never again will I tell anyone in passing that I am interested in genealogy, unless of course they have a really uncommon name, but I must admit I really hoped I could have cracked it for him,  guess it will alway's niggle at me abit.   but I feel with your imput I have not been alone,   thankyou for your time and effort, I really mean that.   from Eilleen

[Barbara F]

Eilleen
Just a thought.
On the birth certificate what was Daniel's occupation?
Barbara

[Eilleen]

Barbara, I will just ckeck and be with you in a few moments.    Eilleen,

[Eilleen]

Here we go Barbara, do you go looking for stress  on Sarah's birth cert 1865, her father Daniel Mcnamara was a corn roller ?      what are you upto my dear.     Eilleen.

[Barbara F]

Eilleen
I must be slightly mad - but this keeps niggling at me!
I am going to summarise evrything we have and then have another look - perhaps a summary will entice some other rootschatters to join in the fun 
Barbara

[Barbara F]

Here is a summary of what we have.  Please tell me if I have missed anything!

Marriage Certificate

Cert say's St John the Evangelist, Smith Square, Westminster, date 1883, Frank Martin aged 20, married Sarah Mcnamara aged 20, father Daniel Mcnamara, deceased. Witnesses A Symes and Annie Dawson.  Sarah lived at 14, Great College Street, Westminster and her husband to be live at Retcliffe road, St Luke

Birth Certificate

Sarah's birth cert say's Sarah Mcnamara born 1865 St Lukes.  Father Daniel Mcnamara., occupation corn roller Mother formerly Sarah Absalom


1871 census:
RG10/404, folio 60, page 27

London, Finsbury, St. Luke

1, Porters Place

Sarah Mack, head, widow, 43, Charwoman, b. Middlesex, St. Luke
Horace, son, unm. 20, Cork Grinder
Daniel, son, 14, Paper Roller
Mary Ann, dau. 10, Scholar
Malley, son, 6
Sarah, dau. 6
Amy, dau. 2

All born Middlesex, St. Lukes

Possible births from Free BMD
Mar 1865
McNamara Matthew St Luke 1b 733
McNamara Sarah St Luke 1b 733

This is possibly Amy

Births Jun 1869

McNamara Melinda St. Luke 1b 667


Possible births from IGI

Horace Mack
Birth 07 MAY 1850
Christening: 02 JUN 1850
Saint Thomas Charterhouse, Finsbury
Parents Daniel Mack and Sarah Absalom

Mary Ann Mack
Birth: 09 MAY 1861
Christening: 30 JUN 1861 Saint Thomas Charterhouse, Finsbury
Parents Daniel Mack and Sarah

Marriage Certificate of Daniel Mack

Daniel Mack aged 20yrs married Sarah Ann Smith aged 17yrs, date 5th July 1875, at St Thomas church, Bethnal Green. Father Daniel Mack ( printer ) The groom lived at 5, Columbia Road. witnesses Joseph Church and Ann Brian.

Were the Mack family and McNamara family the same family?
Why can't we find them on any census prior to 1871?
Where were Sarah (mother) and Sarah (daughter) in 1881.

Barbara

[Barbara F]

Whilst reviewing all the info we have so far I went back to check the 1861 and 1851 censuses.
Nothing useful in 1861 but I found this in 1851

2 Benbow Road, St Luke
Dan'l Mcmarama Head Mar 21 Blacksmith b Bath
Sarah Ann Mcmarama Wife Mar 20 b St Lukes Goswell St
John Absolom Mcmarama Son 11 months b St Lukes Goswell St

Ref is HO107 1522 f 289

Think we may be getting somewhere at last!

Barbara

[Barbara F]

This looks like Daniel in 1841.  Age is a bit out but father is a Blacksmith and Daniel was not born in county!

Gullet? Birmingham
Matthew McNamara 35 Blacksmith b Ireland
Margaret 35 Cap Maker b Ireland
Daniel 15 Iron Filer not born in county
Martha 5 b in county
John 1 b in county

HO 107 1143/3 f 19

Now back to the 1861.

Barbara

[Barbara F]

Still no luck in 1861 but a possible for 1881.  Sarah Mack aged 17 born St Lukes lodging in St Luke with the Russon/Rufson? family.
Ref  RG11 362 f 57

Barbara